Unarmed Parry Perk and Enhanced Parry

[CarrionPeacock]

Unarmed Parry (Power-ups 2, page 8) lets you use weapon parry score to do unarmed parry, right?. How does Enhanced Parry works with it? Does EP (Broadsword) improves this parry? What about EP (Bare Hands)?

[Varyon]

Unarmed Parry lets you use a specific weapon skill for Parry even when unarmed, so Enhanced Parry to that skill should enhance it as well. I'm not certain how Unarmed Parry (Broadsword) and Enhanced Parry (Unarmed) are supposed to interact, but my assumption is the intent was roughly "not at all," as someone with Unarmed Parry (Broadsword) has that Perk so that his/her high Broadsword skill allows for a better unarmed Parry than using an unarmed skill, at which point there's no good reason to invest in Enhanced Parry (Unarmed).

[CarrionPeacock]

Originally Posted by Varyon

Unarmed Parry lets you use a specific weapon skill for Parry even when unarmed, so Enhanced Parry to that skill should enhance it as well. I'm not certain how Unarmed Parry (Broadsword) and Enhanced Parry (Unarmed) are supposed to interact, but my assumption is the intent was roughly "not at all," as someone with Unarmed Parry (Broadsword) has that Perk so that his/her high Broadsword skill allows for a better unarmed Parry than using an unarmed skill, at which point there's no good reason to invest in Enhanced Parry (Unarmed).

Thanks for the clarification!

[AlexanderHowl]

The Unarmed Parry Perk just lets you get the equivalent of a Brawling Parry from a weapon skill. It is generally not worth the 1 point if you have the Brawling skill unless your weapon skill is much higher than your Brawling skill, and it is probably not worth getting if you have Judo or Karate.

[Varyon]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHowl

It is generally not worth the 1 point if you have the Brawling skill unless your weapon skill is much higher than your Brawling skill, and it is probably not worth getting if you have Judo or Karate.

Depends on the campaign, and the difference between your armed and unarmed skills. For a character with Karate-14 and Spear-18, spending a Perk to functionally get a +2 to Parry for unarmed vs unarmed (or unarmed vs thrusting weapon) fights is probably worth it in a campaign with lots of tavern/street fights where the character is unlikely to have his sword, but probably isn't worth it for a game where most of the fights take place on a battlefield of some sort. Using Harsh Realism for Unarmed Fighters (MA124) makes it more worthwhile (as Karate no longer has an effective bonus against weapons), while frequently having fights where the Retreat bonus is likely to come into play makes it less worthwhile.