Flat Cost for Techniques

[bearit]

As the title says, Im attempting to create a data file where techniques are fully leveled by simply paying a flat cost (1 for Average and 2 for Hard). Is this possible?

[ericbsmith]

This should be pretty easy. All you need to do is create a custom datafile redefining the cost progression of Techniques. Currently they are listed as this:

Tech/A, cost(1/2/3), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)
Tech/H, cost(2/3/4), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)

We just need to add the appropriate headers and change it to this:

Version=3
*******************************************************************************************************
[SKILLTYPES]
******************************************************************************************************
Tech/A, cost(1/1/1), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)
Tech/H, cost(2/2/2), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)

This will not "fully level" the techniques when added (that would take a lot more work) but the cost for levels after the first will be free, so you can level them yourself. Note that on existing characters you will need to Resynchronize the Skill Types after loading this GDF to get it to work.

(NOTE: I personally don't recommend doing this. The skill penalty of techniques is set based on the techniques difficulty; allowing the penalty to be bought of completely so cheaply means that many players may concentrate on buying the more difficult techniques and ignore the easier ones.)

[bearit]

Originally Posted by ericbsmith

This should be pretty easy. All you need to do is create a custom datafile redefining the cost progression of Techniques. Currently they are listed as this:

Tech/A, cost(1/2/3), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)
Tech/H, cost(2/3/4), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)

We just need to add the appropriate headers and change it to this:

Version=3
*******************************************************************************************************
[SKILLTYPES]
******************************************************************************************************
Tech/A, cost(1/1/1), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)
Tech/H, cost(2/2/2), base(0), defaultstat(%default), relname(def), subzero(yes)

This will not "fully level" the techniques when added (that would take a lot more work) but the cost for levels after the first will be free, so you can level them yourself. Note that on existing characters you will need to Resynchronize the Skill Types after loading this GDF to get it to work.

(NOTE: I personally don't recommend doing this. The skill penalty of techniques is set based on the techniques difficulty; allowing the penalty to be bought of completely so cheaply means that many players may concentrate on buying the more difficult techniques and ignore the easier ones.)

Unfortunately, I have found that this doesn't work as suggested. Two things have happened:

1) Either I Resynchronize a character sheet with no techniques, then add the techniques, and am then only allowed to take one level

2) Or I Resynchronize a character sheet with more then one level in a technique, and get a divide by zero error and gca4 crashes.

[ericbsmith]

Well now... that should have worked. I never tested it though, and now that I have it looks like GCA just doesn't like it and I'm not sure how to get it to do what you want. I'll have to think on it, or maybe Armin will stop by and have a suggestion.

[Armin]

I don't actually understand what's being attempted here.

Skills and techniques are intended to be costed on a per-level basis, so they're not really designed to work with a 0 point-per-level cost.

Or is the intent that there's only 1 level of the technique, ever, and you just want the user to buy that one level? If that's so, then entering the cost() as cost(1/0) or cost(2/0) should do it.

If you want to have them pay 1 or 2 points, and then still be able to level up the technique for whatever other levels may normally exist, for free, them I'm pretty well stumped on how that would work.

[bearit]

The attempt is to lower the cost of techniques in order to promote their taking over simply leveling the default skill. My group in particular doesnt have much experience with techniques or more "colorful" combat at all. Lowering the cost of techniques is an attempt to get my group to consider them more.