Vows

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

5 points seems a bit much for temporary chastity.

Not really. It just means that you can only get married when you buy it off...which is what you'd have to do anyway.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Vedran

Vow of Chastity - You vowed not to have a sexual intercourse until your marriage. [-5]

Vow of Celibacy - You vowed never to have a sexual intercourse and never to get married.

Worth the same as Chastity. Either way you have to buy it off to get off.

Vow of Obedience - You vowed to unswervingly obey superiors in your religious organization.

Depends on just how harsh the regime is. 10 or 15 points.

Vow of Magic Prohibition - You vowed not to use magic or any other powers which cannot be learned in you religous organization. (You can learn only magic and powers through your religious organization)

Are you familiar with the expression "taboo trait"? 0 points. Note that it would actually be worth something if it keeps you from using things like alchemical potions and arcanely enchanted weapons and such things are scattered around the place

Vow of VoD (ignore what VoD stands for) - You vowed to report to the nearest monastery or temple any sign or rumor of demonic appearances, demonic possesions, graveyard disturbances and usage of black magic.

<shrug> Why would you not want to do that?

Vow of Vegetarianism

It's one of the examples of 5 point minor vows.

vow of Veganims

Same. The difference is below the system's level of granularity.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Not really. It just means that you can only get married when you buy it off...which is what you'd have to do anyway.

That's circular. The poster described it originally as "You vowed not to have a sexual intercourse until your marriage." You can't then say the vow means "You vowed not to get married until buying off the vow." There is nothing to buy off.

Now if it was for a PC from some monastic order that had a sort of term vows(like the military has a term vow of obedience), that might make sense. Or if the PC had promised not to marry until performing a Heroic Deed that might make sense.

But why do you have to buy it off to get married? You just get married.

I don't think it is a Vow at all, in any case. It is a normal part of the commands of several religions even though kept with varied strictness in practice. It should be Disciplines of Faith. If included in a monk it should be done just by adding points to Disciplines of Faith. It can only be a Vow when it is unique.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

That's circular. The poster described it originally as "You vowed not to have a sexual intercourse until your marriage."

And by the RAW, once a vow is fulfilled, you buy it off. Some vows are lifelong so you never have to buy them off but you can if you want to. Some vows are to achieve a some goal, and those must be bought off once you kill the murderer of your father, or find your way back to Earth, or married.

[Not another shrubbery]

Originally Posted by Vedran

No one mentioned Vow of Obedience in which I'm interested as well. It is the same vow catholic priests take. Essentially, you must obey everything Church tells you to do: it is mostly considered to where will you serve and what title in the temple you will get.

What's the difference between that and a Duty?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery

What's the difference between that and a Duty?

Not much. The vow is more literal minded. If you swear a Vow to obey your superiors you will obey them even when their commands will damage the church for as long as they hold that position of authority.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Not much. The vow is more literal minded. If you swear a Vow to obey your superiors you will obey them even when their commands will damage the church for as long as they hold that position of authority.

But is it really any different then an oath of enlistment? That only gets duty for a player.