11-23-2009, 05:27 PM | #31 |
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Re: Who needs tanks?
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11-23-2009, 05:30 PM | #32 |
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Re: Who needs tanks?
Yes, and this invalidates my point how?
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11-23-2009, 05:34 PM | #33 |
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Re: Who needs tanks?
Well, power armor with a turret on the top of the head looks silly. PA might plausibly add 2" or so to height, based on boots and helmet, but that's about it unless you're going with odd leg extensions or stuff mounted on top of the head.
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11-23-2009, 05:39 PM | #34 | |
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And a helmet described as a turret certainly sounds silly, but it's useful. You'll need at least as much armor on your head as you do on the rest of your body, and with all that armor, you're going to want to house alot of your electronics and sensors. Quite a bit of that can fit in the body (the computer, the radar), but you're still going to want the night vision and the AR screen all on the head. Finally, you need to move all this around just as much as you need to move around the rest of your body, so your helmet will have a slathering of whatever it is that helps augment your movement. Alot of it will be in the neck, but I don't doubt there will be mooring points on the top of your head. All of this will expand the size of the "head," and some of that will be expanded "up," adding inches. So easily more than two inches down bottom, and a not inconsequential amount up top (and quite a bit out on the sides, but that's not for our discussion of height)
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11-23-2009, 05:45 PM | #35 |
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Re: Who needs tanks?
I think if you want something larger than a battlesuit, you go with the "classic" mecha where the pilot rides in a cockip.
(Which is, really, what this thread was about before we derailed it ...)
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11-23-2009, 06:59 PM | #36 | |
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I said a turret on top of the helmet, not a helmet as a turret. A helmet is a turret. There's still no good reason to add more than an inch of height. |
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11-23-2009, 07:19 PM | #37 | |
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Also, some extra height to your soles might be necessary for the jump-jets, retractable rollerblades, etc that the powered troopers use to get around more rapidly. In addition to armor, the helmet needs to be able to accomodate a decent range of head sizes. In fact, a good bit of the armor's extra height for some troopers is going to be what's there so that it can be used with only a little refitting by soldiers of larger-than-average stature. The concept of powered armor's basic design being made for 6'2" or so individuals doesn't seem out of line (USMC equipment is apparently designed for 6' individuals, but such relatively-piecemeal equipment has more "give" for tall soldiers than a suit of powered armor would). 8' might be a bit excessive, but I could see PA being 6'6" rather easily without powerbockers - and that's going to add a good deal more than 2" for most users!
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11-23-2009, 07:56 PM | #38 |
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Re: Who needs tanks?
From what I remember from one of those How do they make stuff shows, a fireman's turn-out boots have very thick soles. Quite possibly a full 2 inches.
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11-23-2009, 08:00 PM | #39 | |
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11-23-2009, 08:33 PM | #40 | |
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Even if they don't have the curved-spring form to them, mobility amplifiers (like those Russian piston-powered boots) would be extremely useful to anyone in a powered suit. Plain old stilts increase walking/running speed to a surprising degree, and 2 feet is a pretty easy-to-learn height. |
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