02-19-2018, 05:41 PM | #1191 |
Icelandic - Approach With Caution
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Re: Report To The Stakeholders
If DFRPG failed, despite being amazing and all that, what hope is there for future hardcover releases for GURPS?
Is GURPS dead (not dead dead just mostly dead)? These are questions that popped into my mind soon after reading the news about DFRPG in the stakeholder's report. It's just frustrating and/or annoying to be here some time after the release of this thing that was supposed to be amazing and be hit with the news that it failed. |
02-20-2018, 05:24 AM | #1192 |
Aluminated
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Re: Report To The Stakeholders
At least four. There was a DFRPG post in January, listing of a couple of GURPS products in a "released last month" post, a passing mention in the announcement of the stakeholders report, and a "how to PDFs get made" post which was somewhat GURPS-centric. By comparison, Triplanetary, for which there was an active Kickstarter at the time, got two, Car Wars got a couple, Ogre got a few, and a number of their other games (for example, Zombie Dice) got none at all. When it comes to talking about product, the Illuminator is mostly Munchkin most of the time.
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02-20-2018, 10:55 AM | #1193 |
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This is one of the things that has me ambivalent. On the one hand, I understand SJG's need to focus, distribute and market the way that they do. On the other hand, I care very little about the products that make them the money that sustains the company. So while I may rail against the way GURPS is handled as a saleable product, I can't imagine that there's a better option for the company at this time.
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02-20-2018, 11:08 AM | #1194 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Report To The Stakeholders
It is unlikely that being mentioned or not mentioned on the Daily Illuminator has a major effect on sales of any SJG product.
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02-20-2018, 12:00 PM | #1195 | ||
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Location: Yukon, OK
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As for hardcovers, while Discworld coming in at #35 was probably good news for it indications are that hardcovers are a losing proposition and going away for awhile now. But that does not mean GURPS itself is dead. Quote:
Though and I am embarrassed this just occurred to me, we could retweet or share on Facebook. I checked and it has the buttons. Marketing is however expensive and the time and money spent on it needs to be focused where it has the best ROI. I would like to see more but cant blame them for not spending more money on it. Some ideas though... An annual GURPS kickstarter, or perhaps generic RPG item like cardboard heroes or Monster/Treasure cards. Even if its a PDF only GURPS release its still marketing. I could see the boxed sets we talked about for other genres or maybe a setting release. Perhaps even backers choice in a vote for one of these settings thing. Some 15 minute or so video clip about GURPS on the Youtube channel. Maybe the GURPS News or an unboxing type video discussing that months release plus the Pyramid. Fans could share it and that would generate more buzz. I subscribe to it but its mostly Munchkin. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS9...UuxeVYUxV5nigA But with 2,882 subscribers it should not be ignored. Every new release should get some love there, as it spreads the word to SJG fans of other products. I'll add such items to the Digital Spec thread.
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02-20-2018, 12:16 PM | #1196 | |
GURPS Line Editor
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Location: Montréal, Québec
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Everybody has the right to their preferences: hardback, softback, or PDF; color or B&W; art-heavy or art-light; 256 pages, 128 pages, 64 pages, or shorter; and so on. However, "GURPS done according to the precise preferences I enjoy" is a subset of "GURPS." From the perspective of someone whose entire income has depended on GURPS for 23 years, it's distressing when the failure to meet specific preferences is spoken of as death. That leads to the sort of rumor that can put a guy out of a job. Yep. Nothing prevents that. Lots of stuff on our site can be shared this way the news here, for example. Digital publication and social-media sharing are just realities of living in the current age. Reluctance to adopt may be a sign of a graying market, with all that implies.
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02-20-2018, 12:28 PM | #1197 | |
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02-20-2018, 12:34 PM | #1198 | |
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Or kills my favorite game, neither of which I find acceptable.
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I only have 27 twitter followers, mostly political but like my blog it means I am hitting people who may not be gamers. So that could be a win. The fans need to remember and retweet or otherwise share these things, Every little bit helps.
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02-20-2018, 12:48 PM | #1199 | ||
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02-20-2018, 01:37 PM | #1200 | |
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W23 or the GURPS book pages? Also the line ones, if they all use the same template it might be an easy push. We could then share books we like when they come out, or even since the Gifting option is now available share some over the holidays or birthdays.
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