09-21-2017, 01:28 PM | #11 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
Demon versus devil also only really works if you have a distinction between chaotic and lawful alignments. In DF there is Evil and Insane, but Elder Things fill the Insane category, so in a sense DF demons are devils and DF Elder Things are demons.
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09-21-2017, 01:58 PM | #12 | |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
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09-21-2017, 02:22 PM | #13 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
The big problem with AD&D style demons (which it is notable that even D&D has moved away from) is that they're complicated to actually run. That's okay for a boss fight, but most of the sample monsters are at most Worthies.
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09-21-2017, 04:18 PM | #14 | |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
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09-21-2017, 04:27 PM | #15 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
Generally beyond the scope of anything DF would care about. DF does not do complex theology.
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09-21-2017, 05:10 PM | #16 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
What about the worlds where there never were fallen angels and never will be?
Or worlds where there isn't an Abyss? Last edited by Stone Dog; 09-21-2017 at 05:17 PM. |
09-21-2017, 05:30 PM | #17 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
I have no idea. But myths commonly have two main sources of demons, one is from some sort of chaos or region of evil like the Abyss and the other is being part of the pantheon and then rebelling against the gods in power. I am sure there are others.
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09-21-2017, 05:37 PM | #18 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
Myths do not reliably distinguish between 'demon' and 'generic supernatural evil'. It's totally plausible to have every monster in a dungeon be demonic (actually, it's plausible to have a dungeon itself be a demon).
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09-21-2017, 05:52 PM | #19 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
Ok then just have one class of monster "generic supernatural evil" instead of demon, undead, fairy etc. No wonder GURPS is only a small niche game....
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09-21-2017, 06:01 PM | #20 |
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Re: It would be nice to have some AD&D style demons and devils
It's useful to come up with those additional categories for a DF type game, as it allows niche expertise, just don't make the mistake of thinking it has anything to do with real-world myths.
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