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Old 02-01-2019, 12:49 AM   #1
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Default [Basic] Disadvantage of the Week: Infectious Attack

Infectious Attack [-5] is an exotic physical disadvantage. You have some kind of supernatural condition that is infectious, and which you have no choice about passing on if you use a relevant attack. This disadvantage appeared during the 3e period, in GURPS Blood Types.

This is a disadvantage, because you have no control over anyone you have infected, and they’re free to seek revenge on you for infecting them. They were also presumably opposed to you before being infected, and nothing about Infectious Attack changes that. It works like the Dominance advantage, apart from the lack of control.

Basic points out a possible abuse of this disadvantage: one PC with it can readily give his friends a powerful supernatural template. The standard response is to charge them for the powers, or give them corresponding disadvantages to pay for them, and there’s a suggested list.

Obviously, this disadvantage will usually be found on supernatural racial templates, and zombies are the prime example. Some, but not all vampire and lycanthrope templates also have it. Bio-Tech has a biological version, accomplished as a side-effect of chemical communication.

This is a rather situational disadvantage. It will be really important in a campaign where creatures with it are a theme, but there are plenty of fantasy and horror campaigns where that isn’t the case, and it’s going to be very rare outside those genres. That may increase its surprise value, of course. Has it been used in your games?

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Old 02-01-2019, 03:51 AM   #2
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Default Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the Week: Infectious Attack

Several of the PCs got bitten by werewolves a while back, and one was infected and is now a werewolf herself. So, I suppose I have used it in my game.
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Old 02-01-2019, 05:50 AM   #3
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Having infectious lycanthropy in my Yrth game led not only to the cult of St Stephen the Werewolf but also to there being two separate types of werewolf, one infectious and one magically chosen. Because Plot.

I think the problem is (as with infectious zombies) that you have to put some sort of limit on the degree of infection or you end up arse deep in in werewolves three nights a month.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:24 AM   #4
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Default Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the Week: Infectious Attack

It's rather more GM-will-decide than many traits; as with Dominance, it's the same value no matter how powerful the template that gets imposed.

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I think the problem is (as with infectious zombies) that you have to put some sort of limit on the degree of infection or you end up arse deep in in werewolves three nights a month.
Some options:
  • the new template includes a Limited Lifespan
  • the new template includes a behavioural modification, so they go out and attack people and get shot
  • the bigger supernaturals than you will squash you if you cause too much of a fuss

All of which feels to me a bit like saying "you've got this cool power, but you can't use it". But the alternative, I suppose, is to say that the game is about the infectious takeover of the world.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:59 AM   #5
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It's rather more GM-will-decide than many traits; as with Dominance, it's the same value no matter how powerful the template that gets imposed.
On the one claw, you can give your buddies an awesome template!
On the other claw, you buff your enemies with an awesome template, and the ability to buff their buddies with same, ad nauseum.
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:40 AM   #6
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Default Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the Week: Infectious Attack

There was a Canadian TV series based on a series of books that had an interesting "fix". The vampires had cool powers, but an instinctive violent aggression towards others of their kind past a short neophyte stage. They also could tell when others were within a few miles, IIRC.

This would lead to not wanting to turn your friends, because then you could never be anywhere near them without going bonkers kill crazy.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:20 AM   #7
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What would be the effect of someone going around zapping people with Affliction (Disadvantage: Infectious Attack)? If you zapped a human with it and the human swatted a mosquito with their bare hand, would the mosquito come back to life as a human?
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:22 AM   #8
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What would be the effect of someone going around zapping people with Affliction (Disadvantage: Infectious Attack)? If you zapped a human with it and the human swatted a mosquito with their bare hand, would the mosquito come back to life as a human?
It doesn't work if they're all the way dead.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:41 AM   #9
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It doesn't work if they're all the way dead.
GURPS Zombies has a limitation that requires you to kill them all the way dead. There's an enhancement that brings them back to life pretty immediately in an burning desire for revenge that can't be slaked until one or the other of you is dead.

EDIT: But yes, the default mode requires them to survive, like a werewolf bite.

Either way though, if the template isn't valid on a mosquito, then it isn't valid on a mosquito and you can't have a whatever-mosquito. It's up to the GM to determine what are valid combinations, as part of world building.
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Default Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the Week: Infectious Attack

I just read the description and noticed that the template doesn't need to include nasty drawbacks to qualify. A super-soldier who turns others into super-soldiers if their blood mingles qualifies. As a GM I'd probably still lean into versions where the new spawn can't control themselves properly.
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