08-27-2017, 04:20 PM | #51 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Melbourne, Australia (also known as zone Brisbane)
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
I would definitely buy a supers box set or an after the end box set. Not sure about Cyberpunk, maybe. I think I would prefer a Steampunk box set.
__________________
The stick you just can't throw away. |
08-27-2017, 04:27 PM | #52 |
formerly known as 'Kenneth Latrans'
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wyoming, Michigan
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
Not if they stick to buying things to concept. And letting someone like a Bruce Wayne type plop 5 points into being a reasonably strong person as an aside to all his other powers isn't anything I see being an issue. Nor the mobility-focused Flash or Captain America also being a top-performer "realistic" strength level for 10, when that 10 points could just go to buying up more of their niche.
__________________
Ba-weep granah wheep minibon. Wubba lubba dub dub. |
08-27-2017, 04:48 PM | #53 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Binghamton, NY, USA. Near the river Styx in the 5th Circle.
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
Quote:
It's kind of like doing a Fantasy set. If you did a fantasy box set you could cover medieval backdrops, ancient empires, huge racial treatises, different styles of play, etc. That's exactly what GURPS Fantasy did. OTOH, Dungeon Fantasy takes a *VERY* specific sub-genre of Fantasy and makes it ready-to-play. Space Opera needs to do something like the Dungeon Fantasy approach or it's no longer ready-to-play. If you want lots of talk of technology, scale, scope, and style... well... that's all covered in GURPS Space. If you want a ready to play Space Opera game then it needs to narrow the focus like a laser and make some very specific assumptions. And by necessity those assumptions cannot match up with or be completely compatible with running any of Flash Gordan, Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Foundation, or Future History.
__________________
Eric B. Smith GURPS Data File Coordinator GURPSLand I shall pull the pin from this healing grenade and... Kaboom-baya. Last edited by ericbsmith; 08-27-2017 at 04:56 PM. |
|
08-27-2017, 04:54 PM | #54 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Binghamton, NY, USA. Near the river Styx in the 5th Circle.
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
IME if you make something so easy to acquire [as 1/level ST] then concept will be damned because... why not? There's a reason why things cost points in the first place, and completely unbalancing those point costs will lead to lop-sided character creation. I don't disagree that there's a problem with the cost of ST, particularly in a cinematic game where some characters are supposed to have insanely high ST scores, but I don't see repricing it so cheap across the board as a good fix.
__________________
Eric B. Smith GURPS Data File Coordinator GURPSLand I shall pull the pin from this healing grenade and... Kaboom-baya. |
08-27-2017, 05:03 PM | #55 | |
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lawrence, KS
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
Quote:
__________________
Bill Stoddard I don't think we're in Oz any more. |
|
08-27-2017, 05:37 PM | #56 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dobbstown Sane Asylum
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
<MOD>
This thread is definitely the place to talk about whether a space opera box set or a superhero box set -- or any box set -- should be the next thing SJ Games does. Buuuuuut that doesn't include quibbling over the definition of what is and is not "space opera" or arguing about whether GURPS is a good system for supers games. Please curtail the threadjacking or split those off into their own threads, and keep this focused on the topic of "other box sets." </MOD>
__________________
Reverend Pee Kitty of the Order Malkavian-Dobbsian (Twitter) (LJ) MyGURPS: My house rules and GURPS resources.
#SJGamesLive: I answered questions about GURPS After the End and more! {Watch Video} - {Read Transcript} |
08-27-2017, 06:46 PM | #57 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
One of the quieter features of DFRPG is cutting big-item "switches" to nearly zero. That is, a major part of the game's streamlining is taking all of GURPS' (in)famous optional rules sections, and making the decisions on each one for the GM: either tossing the thing out or presenting it as a standard rule.
The only big thing I've seen so far with an "Optional Rule" label on it the Training Expenses rule. I imagine new boxed sets would want to follow that lead. For Space Opera (a fine choice that, done right, could show off many GURPS strengths), that would mean not leaving the GM to make all sorts of choices about tech level, game world scale, nature of space travel, etc. The set would make as many decisions on these things as needed to present GMs with a ready-to-play setting. That, to me, suggests less of a "Space Opera" box and more of a "Tales of the Galactic Exploration Agency"-like box. Something pretty specific – not only in presenting a setting (even if in broad strokes), but also in setting down a defined rules set, not tons of rules options.
__________________
T Bone GURPS stuff and more at the Games Diner: http://www.gamesdiner.com Twitter: @Gamesdiner | RSS: here ⬅︎ Updated RSS link | This forum: Site updates thread (occasionally updated) (Latest goods on site: GLAIVE Mini levels up to v2.4. Update to melee weapon design tool, with more example weapons and commentary.) |
08-27-2017, 07:13 PM | #58 | |
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Yukon, OK
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
Quote:
Its a pretty typical high fantasy type game though so that is fine. A modern day Action, MH or even Supers boxed set could get away with such an implied setting as well. However for Space Opera your going to have to choose a lot more on the style and technology and thus narrow the appeal even further. As much as I like Space Opera I think its not the best choice for a boxed set. However a MH or Action boxed set could have a bug hunt supplement that would at least cover one type of Space Opera. Or you could do a boxed set GURPS Bug Hunt or GURPS Awful Green Things and it might sell well but it would not appeal to all Space Opera fans as it misses many variations. Still that could be a fun and very play out of the box kind of thing.
__________________
My GURPS publications GURPS Powers: Totem and Nature Spirits; GURPS Template Toolkit 4: Spirits; Pyramid articles. Buying them lets us know you want more! My GURPS fan contribution and blog: REFPLace GURPS Landing Page My List of GURPS You Tube videos (plus a few other useful items) My GURPS Wiki entries |
|
08-27-2017, 07:23 PM | #59 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Binghamton, NY, USA. Near the river Styx in the 5th Circle.
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
Quote:
Of course, the converse campaign to that would be a Space Pirates set in exactly the same region. And a mid-ground would be Space Traders trying to eek out a living amongst all the pirates and hazards of the Frontier (cough... Firefly... cough...). And it wouldn't be hard to cram all three of those campaign scopes into a single box, using the same Frontier Sector backdrop.
__________________
Eric B. Smith GURPS Data File Coordinator GURPSLand I shall pull the pin from this healing grenade and... Kaboom-baya. Last edited by ericbsmith; 08-27-2017 at 07:50 PM. |
|
08-27-2017, 07:43 PM | #60 | |
Doctor of GURPS Ballistics
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lakeville, MN
|
Re: The Dungeon Fantasy box set is great! But now I hunger for more...
Quote:
The notional Sci-Fi, Bug Hunt, Monster Hunters, or Modern Action type distillations will take as much work as the original set, because you have to start from the full GURPS panoply and then carve away everything that's not your subject, then take what's left and distill it twice or thrice until it's the concentrated essence of the genre, implemented with 3d6-roll-low. So I could easily see lots of stuff coming out for DFRPG without clogging the pipeline, while a new boxed set will be more strain.
__________________
My blog:Gaming Ballistic, LLC My Store: Gaming Ballistic on Shopify My Patreon: Gaming Ballistic on Patreon |
|
Tags |
dfrpg, entry products |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|