Ritual Magic Defaults Help

[Lameth]

I am going to use Ritual Magic from Magic/Fantasy and I have a boggle. If you have a College skill of 15, and you find a spell that has zero prerequisites, that means its a zero negative and is automatically at 15, therefor you cant spend points in it, right? You cant have something that goes beyond your college skill right. The only way to get better is increase the college. Can a spell go beyond the college skill?? and can talents and perks bring it over the college skill? thank you

[PK]

Spells cannot exceed the college skill. (You could always allow Technique Mastery to change this, of course.) So if a spell has 0 prereqs, then you have it at College Skill - 0 and cannot improve it.

[Lameth]

Originally Posted by PK

Spells cannot exceed the college skill. (You could always allow Technique Mastery to change this, of course.) So if a spell has 0 prereqs, then you have it at College Skill - 0 and cannot improve it.

I thought most agreed that talents, tools, items, perks can take it over max? Sort of like ritual path magic and adding sympathetic items or alignments.

[PK]

Originally Posted by Lameth

I thought most agreed that talents, tools, items, perks can take it over max? Sort of like ritual path magic and adding sympathetic items or alignments.

Talents, no. A Talent adds to a skill, not a technique, and with the Ritual Magic system, all spells are techniques.

Perks, no, unless you're allowing Technique Mastery as mentioned.

Tools and items, yes, but those provide a situational bonus, as opposed to actually raising the technique.

[Lameth]

Originally Posted by PK

Talents, no. A Talent adds to a skill, not a technique, and with the Ritual Magic system, all spells are techniques.

Perks, no, unless you're allowing Technique Mastery as mentioned.

Tools and items, yes, but those provide a situational bonus, as opposed to actually raising the technique.

Higher purpose?

[vitruvian]

Originally Posted by Lameth

Higher purpose?

Well, that really raises the skill and the technique at the same time, as a situational bonus. It doesn't raise the technique independent of the skill like buying up a technique from a (lower than skill) default does.

[PK]

Originally Posted by Lameth

Higher purpose?

That improves every roll that you make, and thus will always adjust effective skill, but doesn't directly add to a skill's base level or to a technique's base level.

Lameth, nothing will let you improve a 0-prereq spell technique's base level above its college skill except for Technique Mastery or the equivalent. However, anything that gives a situational bonus will affect its effective level, as usual.

[Lameth]

Originally Posted by PK

That improves every roll that you make, and thus will always adjust effective skill, but doesn't directly add to a skill's base level or to a technique's base level.

Lameth, nothing will let you improve a 0-prereq spell technique's base level above its college skill except for Technique Mastery or the equivalent. However, anything that gives a situational bonus will affect its effective level, as usual.

Got it! Thank you all very much