Biotech: Help me justify good looking females with high strength values

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by Anthony

The real problem with heavy water is that it's completely useless for solving your problem; it doesn't form chemical bonds that are meaningfully stronger than ordinary hydrogen, and that's what actually determines how strong a material is.

What does "Deuterium forms stronger hydrogen bonds than protium, so the bonds between hydrogen and oxygen in heavy water molecules would be expected to impact the water" and "as hydrogen bond with deuterium is slightly stronger than one involving ordinary hydrogen, in a highly deuterated environment, some normal reactions in cells are disrupted" mean?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Alonsua

What does "Deuterium forms stronger hydrogen bonds than protium, so the bonds between hydrogen and oxygen in heavy water molecules would be expected to impact the water" mean?

It's enough stronger to affect chemical reactions. It's not enough stronger to modify material properties on a scale GURPS would care about (bond strength in D2O is 1.6% higher than in H2O).

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by Anthony

It's enough stronger to affect chemical reactions. It's not enough stronger to modify material properties on a scale GURPS would care about.

According to my calculus if you find a way around the inherent problems it will increase body weight by about 6.5%, which is a not inconsiderable amount.

[jason taylor]

In any event, it is hard to justify a way to gengineer greater strength in females that would not be equally available to males. If so you simply have an increase in strength across the board. Or at least in those with enough money. And by definition being female means putting investments in categories of capability that are by arbitrary coincidence not considered as types of strength. In other words if the technology is available to all then the major commitments needed in building a "good looking female"(which requires all that is required by the adjective good looking and the noun female) are going to make matching men hard. And if men can't on average be matched in this verse any more then the real one there is no point to it.

The most plausible way I suppose is to posit that female chromosomes were uniquely susceptable to gengineering. Uterine Replicators are another possibility.

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

In any event, it is hard to justify a way to gengineer greater strength in females that would not be equally available to males. If so you simply have an increase in strength across the board. Or at least in those with enough money. And by definition being female means putting investments in categories of capability that are by arbitrary coincidence not considered as types of strength. In other words if the technology is available to all then the major commitments needed in building a "good looking female"(which requires all that is required by the adjective good looking and the noun female) are going to make matching men hard. And if men cannon on average be matched in this verse any more then the real one there is no point to it.

The most plausible way I suppose is to posit that female chromosomes were uniquely susceptable to gengineering. Uterine Replicators are another possibility.

The upgrades may be made available for both men and female, but men usually do not face as many critics aesthetically speaking no matter how big their muscles are and that is why I made this discussion specially around a female perspective. From an arithmetic mean I will agree with you that females have less strength than males, but that's mainly because they also weigh less.

As women also have more adipose tissue, it is specially required to confirm that at certain levels of athletic performance the difference is not so great (Males body fat 5% and Females body fat 10%, while on average males are at about 15% and females at about 28%).

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Alonsua

According to my calculus if you find a way around the inherent problems it will increase body weight by about 6.5%, which is a not inconsiderable amount.

Body weight is not the property you should care about. What matters is the number and strength of chemical bonds.

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Body weight is not the property you should care about. What matters is the number and strength of chemical bonds.

They are also slightly stronger but our main target at the moment is to raise HP for which we need to increase weight, however my specifications are that we must not touch the height and we must not touch the bulk (so "appearance" must also be a constant) :P

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by Alonsua

The upgrades may be made available for both men and female, but men usually do not face as many critics aesthetically speaking no matter how big their muscles are and that is why I made this discussion specially around a female perspective.

That is fine enough if rather brutal in it's real life results (women don't face as much demands for prowess either by the way). But the point remains in theory that you have a circle to square. You have committed your gengineer to include in his specs "good looking, female, and strong" but have effectively only given gengineers for males the assignment, "male and strong".

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

That is fine enough if rather brutal in it's real life results (women don't face as much demands for prowess either by the way). But the point remains in theory that you have a circle to square. You have committed your gengineer to include in his specs "good looking, female, and strong" but have effectively only given gengineers for males the assignment, "male and strong".

Oh not really, but it's more difficult to do it with a woman than with a man, so if with a female character we can do it, the results will be extrapolated to the case of men. I just do not want to lower the level of appearance of strong female characters, which is even recognized by the game as proven facts:

"Anabolic Steroid Regime: Someone who used steroids for several months while body-building might have these traits... If female, add Appearance (Unattractive) [-4]..."

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by Alonsua

Water´s main functions in the human body should involve acting as a solvent for several processes. How different do you think heavy water would be? Would not Immunity (Heavy Water) cover those differences with upgraded enzymes, for example? Or maybe there is a chance to develop a fluid denser and equally/more efficient than water?

I don't think so. See, you could buy Immunity (Chlorine) and not suffer toxic effects from breathing chlorine (though there might still be some corrisive effects). But that wouldn't help you if you were put into an atmosphere of chlorine without oxygen; even without the toxicity it would still suffocate you. And you're talking about replacing water in the human body with heavy water.