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Old 02-20-2018, 09:38 PM   #1
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Default Angels capable of using demonic resonance?

I remember reading/hearing that Angels were capable of employing their demonic counterparts resonance at the cost of gaining dissonance doing so.

1. Is this true? Or am I hallucinating?

2. If it is, where did I read it?
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:02 AM   #2
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I'm pretty sure it's in one of the books as an optional rule – I'm guessing probably the Angelic Player's Guide or the Game Master Guide. I remember reading the same thing.
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Old 02-22-2018, 01:17 PM   #3
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"Perverting Your Resonance", p126 in the GMG.
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Old 02-24-2018, 01:16 AM   #4
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"Perverting Your Resonance", p126 in the GMG.
Also the only thing in the game to give permanent dissonance, which basically means you can only get away with doing it once or twice ever.
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:19 AM   #5
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Also the only thing in the game to give permanent dissonance, which basically means you can only get away with doing it once or twice ever.
"unable to turn into Discord" =/= "permanent"

The choirs have individual ways of getting rid of dissonance, you can burn 10 essence to get rid of a point, and there are all sorts of rare ways to boot. The GMG suggests that these can also fail, requiring AA help.

I've long thought that the most tempting option would be an Elohite hitting a Habbalah with Emptiness; 1 pt dissonance for a 1/126 chance of bringing the demon their senses is a brutal exchange, but over the ages...especially if backed up by the Trisagion...could win the war.
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:37 PM   #6
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So follow up question: the Balsereph of Date attunement givea them the resonance of an angel, could they then use it to invoke the resonance of a demon?
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:09 PM   #7
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So follow up question: the Balsereph of Date attunement givea them the resonance of an angel, could they then use it to invoke the resonance of a demon?
I would say no.

Balseraphs of Fate have an angelic resonance, but they are not angels.
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Old 03-27-2018, 10:14 PM   #8
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I'm gonna have to take the opposite side from thorr-kan (sorry!), and say that that sort of lie-piled-atop-lie is hilarious and sounds right up Kronos' alley to me.
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Old 03-29-2018, 02:02 PM   #9
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I'm gonna have to take the opposite side from thorr-kan,(sorry!)
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and say that that sort of lie-piled-atop-lie is hilarious and sounds right up Kronos' alley to me.
Are you confusing Kronos with Kobal? Humor isn't Kronos's thing.

Though your argument still has merit...if anybody could do it, Kronos could. Mostly, I would argue against it to avoid migraines.
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Old 03-29-2018, 02:49 PM   #10
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Are you confusing Kronos with Kobal? Humor isn't Kronos's thing.
I think he means hilarious for the players. And Kronos may not be into laughter, but he has a strong appreciation of irony.
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