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The Antichrist would have Reputation 4 (Evil, -20%) [32]. Among other things.
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A way-out might be to state that for me it is unethical that a complete stranger gets one of my valuable possessions just by asking. It is unethical, so I won't do it, just like I won't commit a crime regardless of the reaction bonus. So a cop might still issue a speed-ticket even though his reaction is excellent, because he believes letting the beautiful lady go with a warning is unethical behaviour. I also might give my keys to president Jack Bauer if I believed he needed them to save the world. But he really needs a good argument. Last edited by joppeknol; 07-10-2017 at 01:35 AM. |
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A Good reaction says "The PC's testimony is accepted." But that may not be enough in this case. In contrast, an Excellent reaction says "The PC’s testimony is taken as totally convincing, even if his claims would ordinarily be treated as Delusions." That seems like it's the appropriate level; I'm being presented with a pretty wild claim, even if the guy looks like someone I've occasionally seen on the news (it's probably relevant here that I'm not very good at recognizing or remembering faces).
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07-10-2017, 07:46 AM | #188 |
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Going back to the OP, I think I have two final points to make:
(1) One of the underlying bits of argument in this seems to be, "Here is a person who advocates things that no one could possibly disagree with or consider undesirable." Now, I'm a person who has spent virtually his entire life believing things that a large number of people reject: I've been a conscious atheist since I was 9, for example, and a conscious libertarian since I was around 14 (though I didn't learn that word for it till about five years later). So I'm not naturally inclined to go with either "everybody is in favor of X" or "the only people who aren't in favor of X are those with bad intentions"; and conversely, "everyone is in favor of X" seems to me to be perfectly consistent with X being wrong, because I'm prepared to believe that what is actually right is something that is generally rejected. (2) The real payoff question, though, is, what gaming purpose does it serve for this character to be like this? I mean, if you run a railroad, you run it in order to carry passengers, and you need to take them somewhere they want to go; you don't run the railroad for your own private gratification in riding in the engine. Where are you trying to take your players, and why is this character, with these problematic traits, the necessary or the most effective story element for getting them there? How do you think your campaign would fall short of meeting their needs if this character were reduced to, say, Attractive, Voice, and Charisma 1 or 2, with both a favorable and an unfavorable Reputation with different people, and without access to the services of the greatest public relations agent the world has ever known? What's the theme of your campaign, and its central conflict?
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And then in your universe this woman comes along, not even Christian of any sort. From the point of view of the remaining faithful, she brainwashes their friends into being heretics and apostates. From their point of view, that isn't just wrong, it's evil.
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07-10-2017, 08:35 AM | #190 |
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And then you want to look at what Muslims think about apostasy. Apparently there are still a nontrivial number of them who believe that leaving Islam merits the death penalty. I think the reaction to someone who induced a hundred million people to do so would be incredibly strong.
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