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Old 03-01-2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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Default Death, Running Away and the Helper

Pardon me if this has been asked before, but my search-fu is weak. :(

It is Munchkin A 's turn.
He is facing [insert random monster] whose Bad Stuff is death.
Munchkin A solicits the help of Munchkin B and he agrees.
After bonuses played by others, the monster wins combat.
Munchkin A successfully runs away.
Munchkin B dies.

Does Munchkin A participate in the looting of Munchkin B's corpse?
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:19 PM   #2
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Yes. Any player who is still alive can participate in the looting, I believe. I'm also pretty sure that looting happens after both players have either died or successfully resolved all other run away attempts, so even if A had gotten B to run away first, he'd still be able to loot B's corpse once he successfully runs away.

Edit: Actually, I made some mistakes in my assumptions. The final post in this thread shows those errors. The order of running away is important as death looting happens before further run-away rolls are resolved. Also, A does not necessarily get to choose if B runs first, this is more a discussion of the table. I was under the impression that the original victim (the non-munchkin) chooses the order of all run away attempts, but I now guess they are both considered victims for that part of the rules.

And this doesn't change my original answer. Yes, in the situation you described, A would loot B's corpse. If B tried to run away and died first, A would loot before running away himself (which could give him some extra cards to discard to help save his own run away roll if he is a Wizard or something).

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Old 03-02-2012, 04:30 AM   #3
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Yup, off-course Munchkin A can participate in the looting of Munchkin B's corpse. But if he is alive.
Only if he's alive and doesn't have other Monsters to Run Away from. In the described situation, I'm assuming there are no other Monsters (or that this was the last Monster the players ran from), so Player A can participate in the looting.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:51 AM   #4
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Only if he's alive and doesn't have other Monsters to Run Away from. In the described situation, I'm assuming there are no other Monsters (or that this was the last Monster the players ran from), so Player A can participate in the looting.
When Player B dies, his body is looted immediately, regardless of whether Player A still has monsters to Run Away from or not. (And yes, if Player A is alive at that point, he gets to loot Player B's body.) Death is a momentous event and must be handled immediately.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:00 AM   #5
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I'm just trying to envision this. It reminds me of that old Looney Tunes(?) cartoon with the sheep dog and the wolf(?). The wolf would be trying to steal sheep, and the dog was protecting them. They'd be in the middle of an epic fight, then the time clock would ring. They'd immediately stop the fight, clock out, and both go home for the night.

So our hero (player A) is running as fast as he can to get away from the monster(s), but player B dies. The monster(s) and player A pause while the looting occurs, then resume the chase as soon as the looting is done.

A truly momentous event indeed! How funny.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:46 PM   #6
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Yeah, I'm not arguing the ruling, but I thought the looting happened after all run away attempts completed due to that logic. You have to consider that all the other munchkins show up to loot the dead one, then all but the one that was in combat walk off safely, leaving the combat one to be chased by the monsters that have been happily contemplating their first meal while watching the looters.

If you did wait for run away rolls to complete to loot, it would leave a question of who you loot first if both characters died, so I guess the ruling makes it much easier to sort out what happens to the cards, but provides a much more absurd order of events.
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absurd order of events.

Precisely why I love Munchkin. Everything is an absurd order of events.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:11 PM   #8
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Argument is over. I've stated the official ruling.
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