11-21-2017, 08:06 PM | #1 |
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"Seeker", and Bards
Bards get Knowledge spells. "Seeker" is a Knowledge spell. It even has a Bardic Talent Prerequisite:
Wizardly: Magery 1 or Bardic Talent 1, plus IQ 12+ and at least two “Seek” spells. However, apart from "Seek Magic", it doesn't appear that Bards can learn any Seek spells in order to meet the prerequisite. Am I missing something?
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11-21-2017, 08:25 PM | #2 |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
I don't have the DFRPG yet, but could it be that they can learn the spell for prerequisite purposes, they just can't CAST it?
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11-21-2017, 08:32 PM | #3 |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
Check the note on page 73 of the Spells pdf. The answer you seek is there.
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11-22-2017, 12:16 AM | #4 | |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
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No, the default assumption is that you can't learn a spell that you can't cast. (Many GMs, myself included, rule otherwise; but that's not RAW.)
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11-25-2017, 12:41 AM | #5 |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
[QUOTE=PK;2137868No, the default assumption is that you can't learn a spell that you can't cast. (Many GMs, myself included, rule otherwise; but that's not RAW.)[/QUOTE]
Is this a DFRPG thing or a normal thing? Because I think there's a bit about doing that somewhere in Magic |
11-25-2017, 09:47 AM | #6 |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
In the DFRPG all spells have either spellcasting talents or other spells that require spellcasting talents as prerequisites. There are none that do not. The most basic wizardly spells require either Magery 0 or Bardic Talent 1. On the whole, elves and half-elves make the best bards because they have access to more magic. This is intended behavior.
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11-25-2017, 11:04 AM | #7 |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
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11-26-2017, 03:44 PM | #8 | |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
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The (half-) elven racial templates have magery 0 with no option for increasing it - I don't see any general rule for increasing racial abilities under advancement. Seeker requires Magery 1 or BT 1. An elf Bard can have two seek spells (with Magery 0) and has BT 1. Can he buy Seeker?
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11-26-2017, 10:20 PM | #9 |
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Re: "Seeker", and Bards
Yes! They're all wizardly spells. Bards cast the exact same spells . . . they just have weird ritual requirements for doing so.
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