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Old 02-16-2014, 12:46 PM   #1
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Default Extra attack: what maneuvers are allowed?

So if a player has 2 extra attacks, what maneuvers can use use them with, besides the obvious attack and all out attack? Can he use them with move and attack? What if the move and attack is a slam? Can he slam and also do the two extra attacks?
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Old 02-16-2014, 01:36 PM   #2
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So if a player has 2 extra attacks, what maneuvers can use use them with, besides the obvious attack and all out attack? Can he use them with move and attack? What if the move and attack is a slam? Can he slam and also do the two extra attacks?
He can use them whenever he selects Feint, All-Out Attack, Attack, Committed Attack, Defensive Attack, or Move and Attack.

Move and Attack is valid, even when conducting a Slam (but keep in mind the -4 penalty and maximum skill of 9 on a Move and Attack for melee attacks other than slams will apply).

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Old 02-16-2014, 04:57 PM   #3
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Default Re: Extra attack: what maneuvers are allowed?

He can also trade in attacks for feints on a one-on.one basis.

So if you have one extra attack, doing a feint and then attack combo is really useful.

emember though that extra attack gives you that, additional ATTACKS, no additional maneuvers.

You still select ONE maneuver but you get one extra attack per extra attack when you choose a maneuver that lets you do an attack in the first place.

If you want several maneuvers, take Altered Time Rate (and pay the very much justified 100 points for it)
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:34 AM   #4
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He can also trade in attacks for feints on a one-on.one basis.

So if you have one extra attack, doing a feint and then attack combo is really useful.

emember though that extra attack gives you that, additional ATTACKS, no additional maneuvers.

You still select ONE maneuver but you get one extra attack per extra attack when you choose a maneuver that lets you do an attack in the first place.

If you want several maneuvers, take Altered Time Rate (and pay the very much justified 100 points for it)
If he still wanted to be overtly aggressive, he could buy ATR with a limitation so he can only choose maneuvers that let you attack. That would still be more expensive than Extra Attack, as it would enhance your defensive and movement capabilities (Move and Attack, then Attack, for instance).
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:59 AM   #5
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If he still wanted to be overtly aggressive, he could buy ATR with a limitation so he can only choose maneuvers that let you attack. That would still be more expensive than Extra Attack, as it would enhance your defensive and movement capabilities (Move and Attack, then Attack, for instance).
An approach that could yield even more attacks, as each Maneuver can contain a DWA or rapid strike.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:04 AM   #6
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An approach that could yield even more attacks, as each Maneuver can contain a DWA or rapid strike.
Indeed. It gives loads of opportunities.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:56 AM   #7
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It's a bit complicated and I'm not too sure if it's legal.

If a Mage spend the first attack to prep a Melee spell and the other to use it, might have to prep it at the end of one round and then use it at the start of another, but still
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:10 AM   #8
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It's a bit complicated and I'm not too sure if it's legal.

If a Mage spend the first attack to prep a Melee spell and the other to use it, might have to prep it at the end of one round and then use it at the start of another, but still
Casting a spell is Concentration, not an attack. Extra Attack won't help.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:06 AM   #9
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Default Re: Extra attack: what maneuvers are allowed?

A simple mnemonic is that if the maneuver name has "Attack" in it, you can use Extra Attack with it. That gives you Attack, All-Out Attack, Move and Attack, Committed Attack, and Defensive Attack. The only exception is Feint, because it's tricky that way. Get it? :)
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:10 AM   #10
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I am right in thinking you can not Move and Attack then normal Attack to negate the penalties associated with Move and Attack?

If you Move and Attack then you get two attacks after your move, so could you Move and Feint then Slam with Extra Attack?
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