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Old 03-19-2019, 05:04 AM   #11
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Do you have all the page references for DFRPG and DF?

Having both would be useful.
Yep. Frex, my list has the Acid Spider as DF16 for the boxed set and DF2-21 for GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 2: Dungeons.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:28 AM   #12
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If I add columns to it, what should I add? What can I add without infringing on Steve Jackson Gamesís intellectual property? Monster class is obvious; I have that in my spreadsheet since itís part of the algorithms Iím using to assign other stats. (I also have creature SM and IQ for the same reason.) For the ones that are non mere racial templates, I have the grappling ďdamageĒ in control points and the Control Maxima.
The CER rating? I have a large number of CERs already calculated, I'd love if more were crowdsourced. This is more DF than DFRPG, though.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:36 AM   #13
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The CER rating? I have a large number of CERs already calculated, I'd love if more were crowdsourced. This is more DF than DFRPG, though.
That was on my mind, and there are many that need calculations. This sounds like a Project. (And tables of specials for your generator would be another.)

The control points and CM is another option. I have those calculated unless itís a mere racial template, which doesnít permit this.

Iíve been thinking about adding SM, but also the number of hexes a creature takes up, and the effective SM for height purposes.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:02 AM   #14
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The control points and CM is another option. I have those calculated unless itís a mere racial template, which doesnít permit this.

Iíve been thinking about adding SM, but also the number of hexes a creature takes up, and the effective SM for height purposes.
I would find both of these options useful. Also, definitely the monster class. Possibly a Y/N for truly evil? Willing to negotiate?

I haven't used CER much myself, but I do know that beginning DFRPG GMs often have trouble figuring out how tough monsters are. I wonder how hard it would be to separate monsters into simple challenge bands? Like, easy, medium, hard? I don't know. Even that might be a major headache. And, obviously, it partly depends on the PCs and decisions by the GM (tactical options, number of foes, ability to retreat, etc.).
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I wonder how hard it would be to separate monsters into simple challenge bands?
I'm not sure 'challenge bands' would be useful, but simple descriptors like, "Hard Hitting", "Heavy Armored", "Multiple Attacks", "Tricky To Use", etc might be useful.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:17 PM   #16
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I'm not sure 'challenge bands' would be useful, but simple descriptors like, "Hard Hitting", "Heavy Armored", "Multiple Attacks", "Tricky To Use", etc might be useful.
Problem is, thatís relative to the numbered encountered, the number in the group, and points in combat-related traits. Iím not wildly enthusiastic about CER, but itís the least bad option under those circumstances, as thereís some level of acceptance.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:07 PM   #17
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I'm not sure 'challenge bands' would be useful, but simple descriptors like, "Hard Hitting", "Heavy Armored", "Multiple Attacks", "Tricky To Use", etc might be useful.
And "needs a spell list". Saddest fight I've ever had in DOA was 3 liches without spells.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:39 PM   #18
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And "needs a spell list". Saddest fight I've ever had in DOA was 3 liches without spells.
That's a beef with GURPS/DFRPG material in general. There needs to be some support for GMs making powerful NPCs as they typically have lots of moving parts.

So, here's what I see so far:
  • Class. Actually pretty easy as I already have it.
  • CER. This is three columns, as it also needs OR and PR.
  • Grappling, both damage and CM
  • How much space a monster uses: SM, height SM, and hexes. This might be helpful to Emily and Kyle and their generator. I already have main SM.
  • A small space for common notes. Basically "Truly Evil" and "Unwilling to Negotiate," but allowing for quick things like "Needs spells."

I suppose I should start looking at assigning habitats according to Survival specialties.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:22 AM   #19
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You may be pleased to discover that I am bugging Dripton to modify his old DF random program to create random spell lists. I'm also trying to get him to modify it more so that it will output usable NPCs of varying strengths.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:09 PM   #20
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How about making the list sortable by each column. That way I could see all the Monsters in each book.
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