Transgender Munchkin?

[snarky]

Originally Posted by Eben

Unless you run into the few people that believe that being constrained by gender rules is offensive. ie The people that try to raise their kid without ever refering to them by him or her.

Munchkin is a game. There are rules to playing the game. One of those rules is that every character must be either male or female. Don't like the rules? Don't play the game.

Note: it's the character that must be of one gender or the other, not the player. Even if you were playing with the One-Eyed One-Horned Flying Purple People-Eater, it would have to choose its character's gender.

[Morfeatire]

relax, people like that spend 24/7 taking care and growing their "isms" there's no free time to play.

[Eben]

Originally Posted by snarky

Munchkin is a game. There are rules to playing the game. One of those rules is that every character must be either male or female. Don't like the rules? Don't play the game.

Note: it's the character that must be of one gender or the other, not the player. Even if you were playing with the One-Eyed One-Horned Flying Purple People-Eater, it would have to choose its character's gender.

Pronouns are too puny for LOTA.

[thedag]

Originally Posted by Johnny Angel

I wasn't suggesting to out anyone. If they want to be treated as one sex or the other, that is perfectly fine. My suggestion was for someone who chose to identify themselves as transgender and felt constrained by the rules of the game to choose one or the other while they themselves identified as neither.


...and, yes, I have met people who choose to identify themselves as transgender. I don't find that choice to be any more wrong than choosing to identify as male or female.

Well personally I would never play with a person who would get worked up over something like this. Of course I don't live in a country where you get the opportunity to play in tournaments against strangers. In the game Killer Bunnies there comes a point in a certain expansion where you need to declare what sex you would like to be and if you are in a relationship with anyone. The rules in that game specifically say you can make that up.

If I was to play with the transgender people I know I would simply say straight up for the purpose of the game your character starts of as male or female which would you like to be? If they repeatedly answered neither I would tell them they can just watch then. I say repeatedly because they would say neither as first. One of them I suspect would repeatedly say neither but they have always been like that and I would never invite them to a game.

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by Morfeatire

relax, people like that spend 24/7 taking care and growing their "isms" there's no free time to play.

I'd avoid unfair generalizations like that, if at all possible, especially since it's hard to place the context without a quote. I'd hate for those who are gender equality/human rights/LGBQT activists to think that their work is being belittled by an attempt to make them out to be only interested in spoiling everyone's fun, or at least not at ever enjoying their own free time (which I'm sure they have) with a game of Munchkin or two.

For the next bit, I'm not going to bother with gender issues as far as pronouns, I'm just going to go with English grammar as I was taught it *cough cough* years ago.

As far as the topic goes, I'd agree: The game is designed around the character having one gender. If the player wants to put himself into a position of indicating a dual gender situation, then I'd allow him to decide his character's gender at the start of the game. However, at least in my experience (which is not inconsiderable at this point), a male-to-female transgendered person typically wants to be seen and treated as female, and a female-to-male transgendered person wants to be seen and treated as male and probably wouldn't try to make it a complicated issue.

[Morfeatire]

perhaps it sounded wrong 'cause of language barrier, but wasn't meant to be offensive.

I could debate about isms and how they fight for everything they care but equality but that was not the point, and I'm sorry it sounded like that. Feel free to edit/delete it

[Grej]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

then I'd allow him to decide his character's gender at the start of the game.

At the start of the game - before the player gets his cards? Or he can check his starting cards and then choose gender for character?

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by Grej

At the start of the game - before the player gets his cards? Or he can check his starting cards and then choose gender for character?

Whichever your group prefers. We're in the realm of house rules.

[Grej]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

Whichever your group prefers. We're in the realm of house rules.

And if we play tournament? FAQ allows to choose gender before the game

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by Grej

And if we play tournament? FAQ allows to choose gender before the game

Ask the Tournament Organizer and follow her instructions. It's not addressed in the rules because it only rarely comes up.