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07-07-2019, 11:28 AM | #32 |
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Or start a new batch of homebrew :D
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07-07-2019, 01:07 PM | #34 |
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It's not really anything about urban areas. Just that wild strains haven't been specifically selected for the combination of chemicals we like. Of course, if you find a strain you like, it's not really going to be that hard to cultivate, a brewery that doesn't make special effort to avoid it should rapidly wind up developing its own local strain anyway.
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07-08-2019, 08:55 PM | #36 | |
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Once you get lucky and get a batch you like, you can save a starter culture. Though if you are brewing your beer in the same building for any length of time most of the "wild" yeasts in the air are probably from those earlier batches, which probably accounts for a lot of historical batch to batch consistency.
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He uses a particular wine yeast that, while not bad, leaves a bitter note that the champagne yeast I prefered does not. Also, the water used can make a big difference - the mineral content of the water is important. When you add more ingredients, those interact with the mineral content and yeast, as well... |
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Some of the least desirable yeasts (ones which can cause infections on/in humans) are also concentrated in cities, and while not fond of alcohol, they can leave a nasty flavor profile. Most yeasts will happily munch on simple starches and sugars; the ones that parasite on animals have other things that they exude to get their usual nutrients converted. There was a show on the San Francisco sourdough cultures... and how they have to be conserved and preserved, because the yeasts now endemic in SF produce mildly toxic and unpleasant byproducts. Wild yeast contamination is a concern... |
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07-09-2019, 10:51 AM | #39 |
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Wine/cider is easy, in fact you can make it by accident if you don't keep things orderly in your orchard. However you don't see a lot of orchards in post apocalypse movies and if there's fruit around people likely need it for nutrition. "Beer" can be made from a variety of grains that are more durable than fruits. But it would be a lot harder to drink than what we bottle today and can be a bit toxic.
Meads just taste great, and whatever in the environment that doesn't kill the bees won't kill you if you drink they honey. Ethanol is the intoxicant for most liquors. Any survivor group that is making ethanol to power machines has all of the building blocks to build clean distilled liquor and probably the expertise to do a good job of it. There's still some risk from toxicity but multi-pass distilling would greatly reduce toxins and make the hooch much more smooth. |
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Mead being amongst other things a dilution might be a good idea to make honey consumable in a post-apoc setting where nature becomes a lot more hostile. |
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