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Old 05-06-2013, 11:25 AM   #21
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But what if you want to build a draining effect that radiates from your body without affecting you?
It won't affect you regardless – Emanation is foremost a limitation that removes range from an area effect, not an enhancement that gives you immunity to that effect. If the ability already lacks range, then making it cheaper doesn't grant you immunity, but then again, you don't need immunity. The only reason this just about never matters is that almost no abilities have zero range yet allow Area Effect. Usually, you have to add Emanation to curtail range. Leech is odd in having no range to begin with yet being warpable into a form that affects an area . . . and Leech cannot affect the user.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:41 AM   #22
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It won't affect you regardless – Emanation is foremost a limitation that removes range from an area effect, not an enhancement that gives you immunity to that effect. If the ability already lacks range, then making it cheaper doesn't grant you immunity, but then again, you don't need immunity. The only reason this just about never matters is that almost no abilities have zero range yet allow Area Effect. Usually, you have to add Emanation to curtail range. Leech is odd in having no range to begin with yet being warpable into a form that affects an area . . . and Leech cannot affect the user.
I don't think that answers my question. If you take your build:

Leech (Area Effect 1, +50%; Cosmic, Multiple victims, +50%; Malediction 1, +100%) [75]

With this ability you can target a circle of 2 yards, at say 5 yards distance from you by taking a -5 penalty to your will roll. I want to build something where you can only effect a 2 yards radius from your body.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:33 PM   #23
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I don't think that answers my question. If you take your build:

Leech (Area Effect 1, +50%; Cosmic, Multiple victims, +50%; Malediction 1, +100%) [75]

With this ability you can target a circle of 2 yards, at say 5 yards distance from you by taking a -5 penalty to your will roll. I want to build something where you can only effect a 2 yards radius from your body.
In order for Leech to function as you describe, it needs the Ranged enhancement. The build you have above does not have Ranged, so it is centered on the user. It cannot target anywhere else.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #24
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The title of the thread is Vampiric Regen Aura. Couldn't he do what he wanted with the Aura Enhancement?

If he did use Aura, would he still need the Malediction Enhancement?

Can he take an Aura with a Melee Range of 2?
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:42 PM   #25
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In order for Leech to function as you describe, it needs the Ranged enhancement. The build you have above does not have Ranged, so it is centered on the user. It cannot target anywhere else.
Then why does it have Malediction?
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The value of Malediction depends on the range modifiers it uses. If it takes -1 per yard of range, like a Regular spell, it costs +100%.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:52 PM   #26
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Then why does it have Malediction?
Leech specifies that to work without touch, you need both Malediction and Ranged (Which can be traded for Area Effect).
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:57 PM   #27
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Innate Attack does not heal you in the process!
Compare:

(1) Innate Attack: Toxic 1 HP (Area Effect: 4 Yards +100%; Malediction +100%) [3] + Regeneration: Very Fast (Trigger: Successfully injuring an IQ 1+ being with toxic attack; -15%) [85]

(2) Leech (Accelerated Healing +25%; Area Effect: 4 Yards +100%; Malediction +100% Ranged +40%) 1 [92]

They should do the same injury to the same number of beings, but upon successfully using (1) you get to heal 1HP per second for 60 seconds, upon successfully using (2) You get to heal 1HP.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:57 PM   #28
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Leech specifies that to work without touch, you need both Malediction and Ranged (Which can be traded for Area Effect).
I know that, but what are you getting for the +100% you are paying?
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:16 PM   #29
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I know that, but what are you getting for the +100% you are paying?
The ability to not have to grapple them or otherwise make them helpless and unable to resist.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:21 PM   #30
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The ability to not have to grapple them or otherwise make them helpless and unable to resist.
Isn't that what Area Effect does?
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