Sharp claws: retractile. Cost?

[Kromm]

Originally Posted by Rev_Pee_Kitty

The cost of Claws assumes that they don't get in your way and make life difficult -- if they do, that's a separate disadvantage. Otherwise, it's safe to assume that you can retract them somewhat, so they're not in your way, but so that they're still very visible and noticeable.

You only need to add Switchable (+10%) if you want to be able to conceal them completely -- as if they actually retracted fully back into your hand, like Wolverine's do (in the movie and most of the comics).

Yes. Switchable is intended to let you pass as someone without the advantage. If all you can do is avoid the logical drawbacks of an always-on physical ability . . . well, that's the default situation for an advantage. Anything worse is Nuisance Effect or similar.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Yes. Switchable is intended to let you pass as someone without the advantage. If all you can do is avoid the logical drawbacks of an always-on physical ability . . . well, that's the default situation for an advantage. Anything worse is Nuisance Effect or similar.

I think this is the close to reason people are questioning this, is not the concealibility issue, but the fact a common story element is trying to manipulate thing with out you claws getting in the way. like the ability to hold a piece of paper with out tearing it, or a cat's ability to "bap" with their paws with out scratching.

So basically:

• Switchible Claws: Wolvriene
• Normal Claws: Feline
• Always-on: Edward sizzor-hands

[Kromm]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

So basically:

• Switchible Claws: Wolvriene
• Normal Claws: Feline
• Always-on: Edward sizzor-hands

Exactly. You need an X-ray to spot Wolverine's claws, eyes to spot a cat's, and body armor to avoid dear Edward's in a social situation.

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Exactly. You need an X-ray to spot Wolverine's claws, eyes to spot a cat's, and body armor to avoid dear Edward's in a social situation.

Edward's more than just nuisance effect...
Though I suppose you can do a lot with disads, Ham-Fisted, Bad Grip, Supernatural features, etc, still seems -5% nuisance doesn't really cause all those, it just gives you a reason to take them.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

Edward's more than just nuisance effect...
Though I suppose you can do a lot with disads, Ham-Fisted, Bad Grip, Supernatural features, etc, still seems -5% nuisance doesn't really cause all those, it just gives you a reason to take them.

I said Always on 8) which is -20% physically inconveinet... though edward might qualify for -40% dangroush to the him

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Yes. Switchable is intended to let you pass as someone without the advantage. If all you can do is avoid the logical drawbacks of an always-on physical ability . . . well, that's the default situation for an advantage. Anything worse is Nuisance Effect or similar.

Excellent. I was wondering how to model this for an NPC writeup.

[PK]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

I said Always on 8) which is -20% physically inconveinet... though edward might qualify for -40% dangroush to the him

No, this is a misunderstanding. "Always On" is a -0% limitation for Claws. It's the default condition. GURPS Powers is very clear about this. Kromm did not agree that it was a limitation -- he was agreeing with your comparison of the states.

If your Claws are always on and this causes you to hurt people and be unable to open soda cans, etc., then add in Odious Personal Habit and Ham-Fisted. It's not a limitation, but it's worth much more than just a limitation would be. Buy the disadvantages.

[Kromm]

Nuisance Effect amounts to a reaction penalty: "OMG!!! BIG FREAKIN' CLAWS!!!" You'll want disadvantages for all the other stuff.

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Nuisance Effect amounts to a reaction penalty: "OMG!!! BIG FREAKIN' CLAWS!!!" You'll want disadvantages for all the other stuff.

*tongue in cheek*

Of course since GURPS 4e is defining people as only having hand manipulators, this is a perfect excuse to buy No Fine Manipulators as a disad.

*/tongue in cheek*