12-26-2015, 01:11 AM | #31 | |
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12-26-2015, 01:50 AM | #32 |
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It's not ancillary, it's the mechanism for selection. People who find unhealthy food to be more tasty are going to reduce their population through parasitism and malnourishment, maybe even cancer for those who like really well cooked and denatured steak.
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12-26-2015, 03:23 AM | #33 | |
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Goat/camel/horse/etc. milk all have lactose. And speak for yourself. I was born intolerant. Thank goodness for advanced soy based formula. Native Americans can not digest maize better than Europeans. Europeans merely ignored proper nixtamalization that drastically improves nutritional content. Pelagra and kwashiorkor resulted. Chimps and gorillas are apes but not us, so comparisons only go so far. Vegan humans can be just as healthy as more omnivorous humans, but it is far more difficult and takes advanced nutritional knowledge rather than just eat whatever you find and/or is in season, in moderation.
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12-26-2015, 03:48 AM | #34 | |
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12-26-2015, 08:11 AM | #35 |
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You can also preserve some food using fire by smoking it.
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12-26-2015, 10:09 AM | #36 |
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Well "harder" isn't the same as "hard". Meats are so much more easily digested than plants (which tend to keep their nutrients inside cellulose armored cell walls) in the first place that it's probably a negligible difference for anybody with a functional gut. Almost anything that can live on plants can digest raw animal tissue more easily, and humans can live on plants, so....
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12-26-2015, 11:32 AM | #37 | |
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His book is surprisingly interesting and readable. The summary is that homo sapiens has evolutionarily adapted to eating cooked food starting hundreds of thousands of years ago. in GURPS terms, a species that evolved without cooking or a similar method of partially pre-digesting food would realistically have significant differences from homo sapiens. A more carnivorous species might have fewer differences, due to the more nutrient-dense food reducing the time and metabolic capacity required for eating. Personally, I'd handwave this away for any kind of fantasy game. |
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12-26-2015, 01:07 PM | #38 |
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I like the image of elves with gorilla bellies.
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12-26-2015, 02:17 PM | #39 | |
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The resulting tl 2+4 society would ultimately be very familiar if irregular (mixing tl 2 through 6 knowledge and technology). There are a lot of 'this could be developed in a vacuum' technologies that are excellent candidates for alternate tls. |
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12-26-2015, 07:31 PM | #40 | |
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