12-19-2008, 02:11 AM | #1 |
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Translation problems in new GURPS Lite Spanish
Hi! I've take a look to GURPS Lite Spanish and say that it have some mistakes mixing translation spanish and italian.
Anyone knows if someone in spain have gurps 4ed translation in mind? Greets to everyone! |
12-19-2008, 11:20 AM | #2 | ||
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12-20-2008, 12:01 AM | #3 |
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Re: Translation problems in new GURPS Lite Spanish
It would surprise me a lot to find out that the man who translated GURPS Lite to Spanish - who is himself Spanish - got the languages mixed up. Can you tell us why you think this is partly in Italian?
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12-20-2008, 01:41 AM | #4 | |
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Re: Translation problems in new GURPS Lite Spanish
I must say that the translation is a mess. I've been waiting for it for a LONG time, and the results where... discouraging. Steve Jackson Games has a HUGE reputation for top notch editing, and I feel that this GURPS Lite HURTS it among the Spanish speaking community (that consists of not only Spain, but Latin America). It seems as if this guy simply met his deadline by delivering an unfinished product.
First, I'm native Spanish speaker, with acceptable levels of English and French. I do not know any Portuguese or Italian. This is not a full review of the mistakes in GURPS Lite Spanish Edition: Quote:
Now, it's not the only problem, just the most visible one. Some of the translations are babelfish-y, and in some part, an English word has slipped by (babelfish-y translation example-> Rate of Fire (GURPS) -> "Indice de fuego" (Gurps Lite Spanish Edition p. 23)-> Should be "Cadencia de Tiro"; leftover English word example-> Varies (GURPS Lite Spanish Edition p. 16 center column, second row)-> Should be "Varias") I suggest that until you get someone to review the translation, you take it off the site. A half arsed translation can be acceptable for something on a fan webpage, but we've learnt to expect only the best editting from SJGames, and this hurts this image. Last edited by Kuroshima; 12-21-2008 at 08:53 AM. Reason: Checked the dictionary for some technical translations |
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12-20-2008, 12:52 PM | #5 | |||
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...Or something really close to that: it looks as Portuguese or maybe Italian (I don't know these languages). Kuroshima's example is true: the text he quoted here isn't Spanish. Quote:
Honest. Maybe it could be fixed.
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12-20-2008, 01:03 PM | #6 |
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Re: Translation problems in new GURPS Lite Spanish
I have meta-question.
Spanish, as I understand it, is a pretty diverse language. I recall from college classes that there's a formal castillian variety, and a dialect (if that is the word) associated with Latin American. So . . . when a work is translated, is there a preferred dialect? Spanish speakers would know this far better than I, but could some of the Italian and Portuguese words be due to the use of a more European flavored dialetc? Just curious here! |
12-20-2008, 01:39 PM | #7 | ||
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As a quick instance, when you install Windows XP or Vista in the computer, the language options are: Spanish (International) and Spanish (Spain). It doesn't incorporate Italian or Portuguese. At most, it absorbed some English words (joking, sometimes we call that phenomena as "Spanglish"), mostly -but not exclusively- by the Latin American usage. Quote:
After reading better the PDF, definitely this GURPS Lite Spanish is completely awful, and I really second Kuroshima's suggestion of removing it of e23 until it can be fixed. (*) While Spain is suffering a increasingly rapid disintegration process due provincial separatist motivations, currently still can be affirmed the existence of the Spanish language, independiently of the strong political polemic that unavoidably accompanies all the issue -and isn't my wish to raise it.
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12-20-2008, 02:38 PM | #8 | |||
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12-20-2008, 04:38 PM | #9 |
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Thanks for the insights guys!
I read that the "Univision" TV station had to carefully chose a dialect (or at least accent) so that it would be appealing in all of the nations in which it is carried. I guess this is not as much of a factor in written works. |
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