07-25-2007, 12:39 PM | #11 |
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Re: [Space] How habitable is my universe?
I have a PHP script to generate systems as per GURPS Space, with a very few minor tweaks (Agemegos' revised tidal formulae and aging the system in 0.1Gy blocks to track changes over stellar evolutionary timescales). I use the chart in G:S to generate stellar types instead of real-universe data. Also, I use all the rules except for brown dwarf and flare star generation.
I've generated a total of 16977 systems this way (I have a perl script that creates whole thousand-system sectors at once). The habitability breakdown is as follows: Code:
Hab. Systems % 8 136 0.80 7 300 1.77 6 257 1.51 5 338 1.99 4 303 1.78 3 180 1.06 2 105 0.62 1 28 0.16 0 15317 90.22 NULL 13 0.08 I'm at work and without my books, but I was under the impression that you didn't even generate carrying capacity for Hab 0 planets -- the assumption was that Hab 0 systems would only ever have outpost-type residents (miners, military, etc.).
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07-25-2007, 01:55 PM | #12 | |
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What we have is two categories -- hostile (habitability 0) and habitable (habitability >0) -- with a probability function to choose between them, e.g. f(0) = 0.9. Within the habitable category, there is a roughly bell-shaped distribution of habitability with a central peak defined by how wide are the bins (i.e., how likely are the optimum results) in each variable. |
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07-26-2007, 07:07 AM | #14 | |
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As for worlds with Toxic or Corrosive atmospheres, the answer is that one would not "colonize" them at all, when it would be simpler and safer to construct an orbital habitat or one on a nearby asteroid or moon. If there were valuable resources to exploit or interesting aliens to contact, one would build an outpost instead, which does not depend on carrying capacity (p. 93), and support it from a colony somewhere more convenient. |
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07-26-2007, 06:51 PM | #15 | ||
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When it all comes down to it, information about the star system is mostly irrelevant anyway; that's pretty much why most Traveller maps show only the main world's name, whether it's high pop, and the fueling, repairing, and trading possibilities. If you're looking to map out an unexplored section of space, you want to know spectral type to help narrow down where good worlds are more likely to be (and how far from the sun to look for them), and if you're in charge of sending out colony ships and have to make a report to the Emperor, you're not going to show him tons of details, you're going to show him a few pieces of information and ask him to point to the ones he wants colonized. Or something like that.
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07-27-2007, 08:41 AM | #16 | |
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07-27-2007, 11:47 AM | #17 | |
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07-27-2007, 07:01 PM | #18 | |
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07-28-2007, 09:04 AM | #19 | |
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My objection is that GURPS Space 4/e altered the commonly accepted definition of "habitable," one that has been used consistently in previous SJ Games products. "[A] summary of all the factors that make a world pleasant to live on," should, in fact, imply that it is even possible for humans to live on the world, as opposed to in artificial habitats that happen to be located there. The proper place to include the relative difficulty of living on uninhabitable worlds is in the calculation of affinity. GURPS Space 4/e unnecessarily confuses the two. |
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07-29-2007, 08:58 PM | #20 |
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Could the Hab rating be the best you can make it with the aid of some terraforming, rather than the way you found it? I mean, it seems to me that the Hab4 ball just described could have an atmosphere built and regenerated, and the humans inhabit it on the twilight edges. Sure, the atmosphere escapes over time, but that's not a problem for anyone currently alive. With the twilight band having a tolerable level of atmosphere and heat, maybe in a few hundred years some of the day heat will transfer over to the night side and release the water. So long as the atmosphere-making machines are running, it could become a regular, habitable, tide-locked world, up to whatever Hab4 means. The alternative seems to be then, that there are even fewer habitable worlds.
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