Munchkins ahead ! ! !

[nik1979]

Originally Posted by LordHelmet

That´s the way I see it too!

So here´s mine:


I think having a weapon reach 2+ is very important.
His Parry is 19! (13 weapon base with Weapon Bond +3 large shield +3 when retreating)
Two attacks +17 per round (Rapid Strike, Weapon Master)!

He must indeed look very strange - very lightly armored, with a rapier but than carrying a LARGE shield :-)

Whats weapon bond? Isn't that supernatural or exotic?

Doesn't Large Shield give a penalty to Fencing weapons? Because fighting with a shield assumes the shield is in front, fencing weapons tend to have the whole parallel to the blade to have less area.

Just a word of caution with fencing weapons, a shield bash will break it. An off hand attack with a shield bash has no penalties (bec. its meant to be used by the off hand). 15lbs shield will have a +4 to break it (5+ times the weight of a rapier).

Second, a large shield is not that great when you fight in close combat (reach 1-2). Warriors with good DX and Wrestling can make a DX check to grab the shield and move to close combat. The shield then offers -3 to all defenses. Rapiers are not that helpfull at close combat (thats why the shortsword was very much favored with "sword and board" just in case opponents get smart).

[LordHelmet]

Originally Posted by LemmingLord

Weapon master is cinematic, no?

It mostly is! But it is not against the rules.

Originally Posted by LordHelmet

No Exotic or Supernatural advantages or disadvantages

[LordHelmet]

Originally Posted by nik1979

Whats weapon bond? Isn't that supernatural or exotic?

No it is social. (Fantasy p.132)

Originally Posted by nik1979

Doesn't Large Shield give a penalty to Fencing weapons?

Haven´t found any, but I wondered myself cause I think there was something in 3rd Ed.

Originally Posted by nik1979

15lbs shield will have a +4 to break it (5+ times the weight of a rapier).

It is just +3 to break since the Rapier is fine quality. But nontheless you are right, this is indeed dangrous. And even more if you use a large (22lbs) Shield. So try to avoid the reach of any shield bash. If he tries to Skrike at the Weapon (doesn´t have to come that close) the attack is at -3 and I could make a normal parry to avoid breaking the weapon.

Originally Posted by nik1979

Second, a large shield is not that great when you fight in close combat (reach 1-2). Warriors with good DX and Wrestling can make a DX check to grab the shield and move to close combat. The shield then offers -3 to all defenses. Rapiers are not that helpfull at close combat (thats why the shortsword was very much favored with "sword and board" just in case opponents get smart).

I´m sure of that. But as before, try to avoid close combat! The rapier guy is not the one for the in-fight, but the fast one!

[LemmingLord]

Originally Posted by LordHelmet

It mostly is! But it is not against the rules.

Cinematic isn't exotic? Hmmmm..

[LordHelmet]

Originally Posted by Incard

He has increased his Basic Speed and his Basic Move both by the maximum 'normal' amount, +2.0 for Basic Speed and +3 for Basic Move. With a Basic Move of 11, his step is 2 hexes. This combined with his normal 2 yard reach with his weapon make him a tough combatant.

I like the concept of speed and reach beeing superior to brute force. Reminds me a lot of the greek under Alexander - they conquered a huge territory with this tactic. And beyond that it is an excellent combination for formation fighting.

[LordHelmet]

Originally Posted by LemmingLord

Cinematic isn't exotic? Hmmmm..

When I thought of Exotic and Supernatural I beared the definition of B.32 (Types of Advantages) in mind. Weapon Master is not marked as such.

[Azinctus]

Great thread guys. Vry useful for a noob liek myself.

Originally Posted by rosignol

stat+10 is the usual cap in games I play in

Isn't this most important?

If I have a DX+25 [100] points in shortsword my feint or deceptive attack will beat the parry of anyone with much less and my parry will be unstoppable.

Does everyone use a limit like Rosignol?

[Bruno]

So the title of the thread is Munchkins Ahead... can we get around the ban on exotic ("alien head") abilities by making our warrior non human? :D

[LordHelmet]

Originally Posted by Azinctus

Does everyone use a limit like Rosignol?

Since the characters in my campaigns have mostly around 100-150CP in total I don´t have the quandary of spending too much points in just one skill.

[LordHelmet]

Originally Posted by Bruno

So the title of the thread is Munchkins Ahead... can we get around the ban on exotic ("alien head") abilities by making our warrior non human? :D

If no one comes up with a more ingenious fighter than the fast spear using guys - why not just give ot a try!