Gun Safety Rules

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

I was a vehicle commander on a ride along mission with some Army dudes (from a supposedly "elite" unit that I shall not name) that were the advanced party for the unit that was Relief-In-Place-ing us. When we returned to base, crossed the wire, and had to Unload/Show Clear, an Army Captain proceeded to clear his pistol by putting the barrel against his chest SAPI plate and racking the slide!

I've never seen anyone do something that stupid with a firearm. WOW

[PK]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

Yes, like holding your pistol sideways.

Oh, Hans knows about that stuff, too. He covers "gangsta shooting," and many other boneheaded blunders, in Tactical Shooting. Full game effects, too, so the GM knows just what sort of penalty to assign to someone who thinks it's "gangsta" to limp-wrist a semiautomatic.

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk

I knew a Marine who rested the muzzle of his M4 on his boot while he did a function check. And he forgot to take the mag out before doing so. Idiot.

Wow, that's also very stupid.

I've seen a grand total of one negligent discharge. The soldier in question had her finger too near the trigger while holding her weapon in the low ready. I was about to speak when she suddenly fired a round into the dirt.She looked surprised. Dear Lord, but the poor Iraqi prisoners who were being moved past her freaked out!

Of course, every once in a while some nimrod pops a round into the clearing barrel. This has never occured in my presence, though.

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Rev. Pee Kitty

Oh, Hans knows about that stuff, too. He covers "gangsta shooting," and many other boneheaded blunders, in Tactical Shooting. Full game effects, too, so the GM knows just what sort of penalty to assign to someone who thinks it's "gangsta" to limp-wrist a semiautomatic.

Hmmmmm....perhaps I must also buy this book. :)

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

Of course, every once in a while some nimrod pops a round into the clearing barrel. This has never occured in my presence, though.

This one often has more to do with the idiotic Army clearing instructions than anything else.
Seriously, telling people to rack, rack and then pull the trigger without at the very least telling them to eyeball the chamber, or wiggle their pinkies in it first, is just asking for trouble.

[combatmedic]

Hmmmm...Common Sense- wouldn't this advantage tend to eliminate a lot of unsafe/improper handling issues?
I mean, an adult from any culture in which guns are known and understood to be potentially deadly wepaons (most of the Earth, now) without any points in the Guns skill should already know that

• guns aren't toys
• don't point guns at people unless you mean to shoot them
• the round exists the muzzle
• etc

These points of basic safety are really common sense, not arcane rules. Yes, a lot of people are morons. Some morons are trainable, others are not.

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

This one often has more to do with the idiotic Army clearing instructions than anything else.
Seriously, telling people to rack, rack and then pull the trigger without at the very least telling them to eyeball the chamber, or wiggle their pinkies in it first, is just asking for trouble.

I dunno which Army guys you were with, but if we'd cleared without eyeballing and fingering, we'd have been in deep doo doo. That was SOP in my unit.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Like those found here.

Would they be part of the Guns skill or would they be an SOP Perk (Power-Ups 2 p.15)?

They also are some degree of CoH. Much of the purpose of the rules is to make people pay attention to what they are doing with their gun above and beyond the basic benefits of the rules themselves.

[combatmedic]

A Father's Advice


If a sportsman true you'd be
Listen carefully to me. . .

Never, never let your gun
Pointed be at anyone.
That it may unloaded be
Matters not the least to me.

When a hedge or fence you cross
Though of time it cause a loss
From your gun the cartridge take
For the greater safety's sake.

If twixt you and neighbouring gun
Bird shall fly or beast may run
Let this maxim ere be thine
"Follow not across the line."

Stops and beaters oft unseen
Lurk behind some leafy screen.
Calm and steady always be
"Never shoot where you can't see."


You may kill or you may miss
But at all times think this:
"All the pheasants ever bred
Won't repay for one man dead."

Mark Beaufoy - 1902

[Crakkerjakk]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

Hmmmm...Common Sense- wouldn't this advantage tend to eliminate a lot of unsafe/improper handling issues?
I mean, an adult from any culture in which guns are known and understood to be potentially deadly wepaons (most of the Earth, now) without any points in the Guns skill should already know that

• guns aren't toys
• don't point guns at people unless you mean to shoot them
• the round exists the muzzle
• etc

These points of basic safety are really common sense, not arcane rules. Yes, a lot of people are morons. Some morons are trainable, others are not.

Probably. I went shooting with a friend of mine who had never touched a gun before but his brother had once accidentally fired a shotgun through a wall at his house. He was VERY careful with the weapon, and still is every time I've gone out shooting with him.