Giant Question

hcobb · 11-10-2019, 08:48 PM

A: Zero

Q: What's the MA of a ST 30 Giant in Fine Plate with a Small Shield, Battleaxe, Backpack, 3 days of human rations and three quart sized waterskins? (I.e. one day provisions for a giant.)

Chris Rice · 11-11-2019, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hcobb

A: Zero

Q: What's the MA of a ST 30 Giant in Fine Plate with a Small Shield, Battleaxe, Backpack, 3 days of human rations and three quart sized waterskins? (I.e. one day provisions for a giant.)

It's MA will be largely unaffected due to the advantage of it's great strength.

hcobb · 11-11-2019, 05:01 AM

Note that one weapon, one shield, one suit of armor, one backpack, and one day of provisions adds up to 301 pounds. As this exceeds ten times ST the giant is too heavily laden to fight. Thankfully he's not carrying a dagger or torch.

Chris Rice · 11-11-2019, 06:44 AM

I've just realised that the section on "Advantages of Great Strength" seems to have disappeared from the new edition. Pity. Nevertheless, I would only consider the encumbrance rules to apply to human sized figures, not to Giants or other large creatures; as you've demonstrated, they simply don't work for these sorts of creatures.

hcobb · 11-11-2019, 07:37 AM

There are two fixes for horses and giants and centaurs, oh my!

You can apply my complex math here: https://www.hcobb.com/tft/house_rules.html#Weight

Or use the existing encumbrance rules and divide the load carried by the number of hexes of the figure. (I.e. divide loads by two for horses and by three for giants.)

The two methods are about the same for multi-hex figures. It depends on how badly you want to say "no amour buddy!" to the Lizard People.

larsdangly · 11-11-2019, 08:02 AM

Lizard people are nerfed now, so you can probably get away with giving them the bad news.

TippetsTX · 11-11-2019, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hcobb

Or use the existing encumbrance rules and divide the load carried by the number of hexes of the figure. (I.e. divide loads by two for horses and by three for giants.)

A hex-based multiplier is simpler (i.e. a giant can manage 3 times the weight over a 1-hex figure of equivalent ST). And add a x2 modifier for quadrapeds.

TippetsTX · 11-11-2019, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by larsdangly

Lizard people are nerfed now, so you can probably get away with giving them the bad news.

Give reptile men and other 'large' 1-hex figures a 1.5x multiplier.

hcobb · 11-11-2019, 06:19 PM

Is the giant's spiked club of Melee page 21 (and Wizard, and TFT, etc.) a one handed weapon as shown on the counter? Can I carry something really terrifying like a dagger in the off hand?

Yes, a dagger.

Of course when the giants get to IQ 8 they use a cestus on each hand and humanity is doomed.

JimmyPlenty · 11-11-2019, 09:46 PM

I wouldn't even bother to worry about the mechanics of it. Once you get to the monster stats, they are all made up without a strict system anyway.

11-10-2019, 08:48 PM	#1
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Giant Question A: Zero Q: What's the MA of a ST 30 Giant in Fine Plate with a Small Shield, Battleaxe, Backpack, 3 days of human rations and three quart sized waterskins? (I.e. one day provisions for a giant.) __________________ -HJC

11-11-2019, 05:01 AM	#3
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Giant Question Note that one weapon, one shield, one suit of armor, one backpack, and one day of provisions adds up to 301 pounds. As this exceeds ten times ST the giant is too heavily laden to fight. Thankfully he's not carrying a dagger or torch. __________________ -HJC

11-11-2019, 06:44 AM	#4
Chris Rice Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: London Uk, but originally from Scotland	Re: Giant Question I've just realised that the section on "Advantages of Great Strength" seems to have disappeared from the new edition. Pity. Nevertheless, I would only consider the encumbrance rules to apply to human sized figures, not to Giants or other large creatures; as you've demonstrated, they simply don't work for these sorts of creatures.

11-11-2019, 07:37 AM	#5
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Giant Question There are two fixes for horses and giants and centaurs, oh my! You can apply my complex math here: https://www.hcobb.com/tft/house_rules.html#Weight Or use the existing encumbrance rules and divide the load carried by the number of hexes of the figure. (I.e. divide loads by two for horses and by three for giants.) The two methods are about the same for multi-hex figures. It depends on how badly you want to say "no amour buddy!" to the Lizard People. __________________ -HJC

11-11-2019, 08:02 AM	#6
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Giant Question Lizard people are nerfed now, so you can probably get away with giving them the bad news.

11-11-2019, 06:19 PM	#9
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Giant Question Is the giant's spiked club of Melee page 21 (and Wizard, and TFT, etc.) a one handed weapon as shown on the counter? Can I carry something really terrifying like a dagger in the off hand? Yes, a dagger. Of course when the giants get to IQ 8 they use a cestus on each hand and humanity is doomed. __________________ -HJC

11-11-2019, 09:46 PM	#10
JimmyPlenty Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Giant Question I wouldn't even bother to worry about the mechanics of it. Once you get to the monster stats, they are all made up without a strict system anyway.