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Old 11-14-2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default Less than 1/3 your HP left ?

On B380, under Effects of Injury, it says:

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If you have less than 1/3 of your
HP remaining, you are reeling from
your wounds. Halve your Basic Speed
and Move (round up), which also
reduces your Dodge.
On B419, it says:

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Less than 1/3 your HP left – You
are reeling from your wounds.
Halve your Move and Dodge
(round up).

The first one leads me to believe I'm re-calculating Dodge from the newly adjusted Move. The second one says just to halve the Dodge score, which would lead to a different result than the first interpretation.

Healthy Dude has Move 6 and Dodge of 9. He is taken down to 1/3 HP. His new Move is 3 and Dodge is 5 (halved) -OR- 6 (recalculated) ?
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:09 PM   #2
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I see where you are getting your question, but I've never seen anyone do anything other than halve Dodge. I never noticed the possible conflict there in all these years.

Take the rules on 419 as literal. It is flat out telling you to halve Dodge and round up, where the other one is vague and causing this confusion.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:11 AM   #3
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Healthy Dude has Move 6 and Dodge of 9. He is taken down to 1/3 HP. His new Move is 3 and Dodge is 5 (halved) -OR- 6 (recalculated) ?
Each is halved separately. Dodge is based off Basic Speed, not Move.

A badly injured Healthy Dude's Move will be 3, his Dodge 5.
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:32 AM   #4
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Each is halved separately. Dodge is based off Basic Speed, not Move.

A badly injured Healthy Dude's Move will be 3, his Dodge 5.
Unfortunately, that doesn't reconcile the problem that would occur if Healthy Dude has Basic Speed 6 and Dodge 9, then lost 2/3 of his hit points. He would have Basic Speed 3, but would he have Dodge 5, or Dodge 6?


Follow-up:

Healthy Dude has Basic Speed 6, Combat Reflexes, Enhanced Dodge, for a total Dodge of 11. He loses 2/3 of his hit points and how has Basic Speed 3. Is his new Dodge...

A) Basic Speed (3) + 3 + 1 + 1 = 8
B) Original Total Dodge (11) / 2 = 6
C) Original Base Dodge (9) / 2 + 1 + 1 = 7

Answer: I have no idea.

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Old 11-15-2009, 06:47 AM   #5
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Unfortunately, that doesn't reconcile the problem that would occur if Healthy Dude has Basic Speed 6 and Dodge 9, then lost 2/3 of his hit points. He would have Basic Speed 3, but would he have Dodge 5, or Dodge 6?
Your Basic Speed doesn't drop. Only your Move and Dodge.


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Follow-up:

Healthy Dude has Basic Speed 6, Combat Reflexes, Enhanced Dodge, for a total Dodge of 11. He loses 2/3 of his hit points and how has Basic Speed 3. Is his new Dodge...

A) Basic Speed (3) + 3 + 1 + 1 = 8
B) Original Total Dodge (11) / 2 = 6
C) Original Base Dodge (9) / 2 + 1 + 1 = 7

Answer: I have no idea.

Cheers.
His new Dodge is 6. You take the final Dodge score, as modified by Combat Reflexes and Enhanced Dodge, then you halve it. It's as simple as it sounds.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:58 AM   #6
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Your Basic Speed doesn't drop. Only your Move and Dodge.
B.380 suggests otherwise. Is that errata'd?

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Old 11-16-2009, 02:22 AM   #7
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B.380 suggests otherwise. Is that errata'd
There isn't any official errata on it, but p.419 is the injury chapter and says Move and Dodge. I'd consider it the more authoritative source.

Further, the FAQ has a question which cites halved Move and Dodge.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:50 AM   #8
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Just halve Move and Dodge. All mentions of Basic Speed are in error . . . I've submitted errata myself, several times, but they seem to have been misplaced.
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