"Instant" weakness/vulnerability question

[Bathawk]

How would you cost a disadvantage when a character takes immediate damage from a substance/condition? A fire elemental would take damage from mere contact with water, and in fiction holy water acts like acid to a vampire, And in many cases a silver object will burn a werewolf if he even holds it

"weakness" inflicts damage due to exposure over time (at least a minute of exposure), while vulnerability only multiplies existing damage, but has no effect if there is no "base" damage

[awesomenessofme1]

Originally Posted by Bathawk

How would you cost a disadvantage when a character takes immediate damage from a substance/condition? A fire elemental would take damage from mere contact with water, and in fiction holy water acts like acid to a vampire, And in many cases a silver object will burn a werewolf if he even holds it

"weakness" inflicts damage due to exposure over time (at least a minute of exposure), while vulnerability only multiplies existing damage, but has no effect if there is no "base" damage

I believe, although it's not entirely clear from the text, that Weakness applies once immediately and then at the listed interval. I think it's explicitly described that way in a supplement when it comes to holy water.

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Yeah, you should treat the damage as if it was cyclic attack damage (B103). You deal damage on contact, and then you deal damage after a given time of exposure to the hazard.

For more ideas, you could check this post.

[awesomenessofme1]

Regarding the linked post, I like to have point totals for my NPCs and monsters, so I ended up statting something related to this out. Reducing the time of Weakness to 1d/sec is Quickened 6, +120%. What I used it for was giving my vampires a modern "crumble to dust almost instantly in sunlight" effect.

[Brandy]

Originally Posted by Bathawk

How would you cost a disadvantage when a character takes immediate damage from a substance/condition? A fire elemental would take damage from mere contact with water, and in fiction holy water acts like acid to a vampire, And in many cases a silver object will burn a werewolf if he even holds it

"weakness" inflicts damage due to exposure over time (at least a minute of exposure), while vulnerability only multiplies existing damage, but has no effect if there is no "base" damage

Isn't it the case with weakness when you're exposed you take the damage instantly for any exposure, and then cycle the damage again if the exposure is continuous for the period?

[Brandy]

Originally Posted by awesomenessofme1

Regarding the linked post, I like to have point totals for my NPCs and monsters, so I ended up statting something related to this out. Reducing the time of Weakness to 1d/sec is Quickened 6, +120%. What I used it for was giving my vampires a modern "crumble to dust almost instantly in sunlight" effect.

That's the same thing that Kromm suggests here.

[awesomenessofme1]

Originally Posted by Brandy

That's the same thing that Kromm suggests here.

Yep, although at that point Quickened had never appeared in any official supplements. I can't remember where, but it did appear at some point.