12-16-2017, 05:05 PM | #41 |
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Re: Your favorite Official Vehicle Design
I cannot concur with that -- an equal value of RR-equipped bikes is going to clobber a single car (for ex.: Six _Gazelle_ later-models vs. a _Moose_) unless said car is a "tail-end Charlie" and the bikes come in from behind (think _Bodyguard_ or _Katana 2034_). And, as noted: With custom cars, even "updated" bikes are going to get chopped to pieces.
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12-17-2017, 01:59 AM | #42 |
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Re: Your favorite Official Vehicle Design
Another consideration is that bikes don't have to last long, they only have to last long enough.
Massed cheap bikes driven by Dregs who are desperate or psychotic can challenge even well armed convoys. The chase by massed expendable forces is a staple of the genre. If they catch you they get to eat, if they don't, there are less mouths to feed and the gang is winnowed of it's weakest members. It's a harsh strategy, but not wholly without logic. As the expense of the bike rises then their efficiency diminishes. |
12-17-2017, 04:26 AM | #43 | |
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ETA to clarify: because you can fit more machine guns / RRs in the same vehicle space, budget, etc.
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12-17-2017, 02:03 PM | #44 | |
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A single crewman with 5 MG's is still only shooting one guy each turn. |
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12-17-2017, 02:06 PM | #45 | |
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-- More than one gunner, or; -- One weapon which can hit multiple targets at once. The Flame Cloud was, to my mind, the death of the cycle gang -- they come storming up in a pack, and <FLOONT>. Not even mines or spikes in the "checkerboard of doom" pattern could manage that level of single-shot devastation. And Cycle Windshells and/or Component Armor didn't help; the FC hit *every* exposed surface, so that armor went away fast.
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12-19-2017, 02:26 PM | #46 | |
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Yeah clearly applying 4x damage to a windshell from a FC is not a smart interpretation of the rules - each cycle component should only take damage once - so a windshell cycle should be able to drive through a couple FCs. A windshell should protect all 'internal' components of the bike until the armor is breached (engine, cyclist, weapons).
CA cycles should also be fine (but a windshell is better for a FC because each component will take separate FC damage). Quote:
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12-19-2017, 03:26 PM | #47 | ||
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Still: With only 10 DP available (plus whatever DP is being protected), it doesn't last long.
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12-20-2017, 12:47 PM | #48 |
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You are not obliged to drive into a FC of course ;) Bikes can very easily go off-road to avoid them if necessary and stopping is perfectly effective. Wait for them to go out and re-pursue.
We have discussed FCs before and I do not believe they can affect all 4 armour locations anyway. An armour location behind another armour location is not exposed. If damage penetrates it is treated as any other damage, it doesn't go on to "infect" all interior locations. As the "exposed" components on a bike are still behind front armour if it is breached any remaining damage goes on to hit only a single component. Subsequent damage will also only affect a single component (possibly one that has already been destroyed and thus have no effect). |
01-05-2018, 03:17 AM | #49 |
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Re: Your favorite Official Vehicle Design
The Gaijin & Tachi from Pyramid #3 'Recon in Force' Scenario , are nice 'Military style' Mid & Luxury respectively .
The Busnought Model G for ADQ #9/4's 'The Great Asp Hunt' is great in many ways - especially if you wish to carry 20 passengers .
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