03-05-2013, 03:26 AM | #41 | |
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The alternative definition that I submit is a lot more useful is "the level of technology used by a sizable majority of the local population". A TL3 society can have rich people who imports TL15 stuff, but most of the population make do with TL3 stuff. Visitors can easily find people to repair their TLX equipment on any world with a TL of X+, but to get it repaired on any world with a lower TL requires tracking down someone who has the knowledge. It's not automatic.[*] There's another canonical definition that is slightly different, but I've forgotten what it was and where I found it. Hans |
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03-05-2013, 07:10 AM | #42 | |
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However, none of these require a lot of the stuff, and it may be cheaper to produce it on low-tech worlds with natural biospheres by extraction from natural gas than by scooping it out of gas giants. |
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03-05-2013, 07:25 AM | #43 | |
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Yet another reason why the playtest for GT:Starships ran 5000 messages.
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03-05-2013, 09:05 AM | #44 | |
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meters, superstrong submersible hulls would not change that at all - we are already able to build hulls for a depth of 10,000+ meters. |
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03-05-2013, 10:44 AM | #45 |
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From a gaming perspective, the useful definition is "the level of technology the PCs are likely to run into", but that's pretty close to the level used by the local population.
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03-05-2013, 10:58 AM | #46 | |
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With that possibility no one is going to invest much in a helium extraction operation on a low tech world. A vicious cycle but it might explain some aspects of why there even ARE low tech worlds around. |
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03-05-2013, 11:07 AM | #47 | |
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(Plus, the Scouts are probably not going to adopt "what technology are wandering adventures likely to run into" as their standard. ;-) ) Hans |
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03-05-2013, 11:39 AM | #48 | |
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03-05-2013, 12:00 PM | #49 | |
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03-05-2013, 01:10 PM | #50 | |
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I mentioned Starships but I leartned a lot about gas mixtures during the playtests for Atlantis, TS:Under Pressure and Blue Planet. What I mostly learned though is that they're a lot of trouble and still quite limited. A diving hardsuit based off of powered armor tech would probably make deep sea diving with special gas mixetures obsolete on the basis of simplicity alone.
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