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Old 06-16-2013, 02:47 AM   #11
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Default Re: Perk - use Will to avoid unconsciousness

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The Perk makes sense, and I may just offer it in my own games. It seems very appropriate to lots of genre types.


I don't know about that- using Extra Effort in combat requires a Will roll. I suppose that games without magic effects resisted by Will, it has decreased utility. I don't agree that that is its main role, though.
No, Extra Effort only requires a will roll for non-combat uses; the rules for in-combat are streamlined to reduce die rolls, among other things.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:28 AM   #12
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Default Re: Perk - use Will to avoid unconsciousness

Don't forget that Will is also used to resist influence skills. I know that this works only indirectly vs. PCs, but the box on B 359 clearly says that you should use the margin of victory resulting from this creatively.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:26 AM   #13
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Don't forget that Will is also used to resist influence skills. I know that this works only indirectly vs. PCs, but the box on B 359 clearly says that you should use the margin of victory resulting from this creatively.
And for Fright Checks. And for trying to do anything at negative FP, which might end up saving your life. And several other things. Will is awesome.
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:33 AM   #14
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I already use the optional rule that Perception and Will start at 10 rather than at IQ, so this looks good to me.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:22 PM   #15
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I thought about doing Will the Traveller way, which would be to base will on HT (over on that side of the spaceport they spell HT "End"). Unfortunately HT is just too useful to base Will on, though I really like the idea of somebody holding onto life by sheer willpower.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:55 AM   #16
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I have no issues with this perk as it stands, seems suitably flavorful and not overpowered
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:03 PM   #17
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Default Re: Perk - use Will to avoid unconsciousness

Why does this need a perk? Just buy enough levels of Hard to Subdue so your HT roll matches your will roll, possibly with [Source: Iron Will; -10%], meaning that anything that reduces your will will also reduce this advantage. Yes, that's more expensive than the perk, but Will is hardly a bad deal even without affecting consciousness rolls.
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