02-25-2019, 01:44 AM | #41 |
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Re: GURPS: Getting Run Over by a Tank
I didn't know the exact word for what those Germans dug in the ground when I wrote it. But these were 1 person foxholes, not trenches like those of WW I.
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02-25-2019, 04:00 AM | #42 | |
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I have heard a story from the 1990/1991 Gulf War about NATO tanks driving along a slit trench behind a berm and then having someone hop out to plant a flag for the graves registration detail, but again that is trenches in sand (and by an army whose officers were scared to provide effective training lest the Mukhabarat decided they were plotting a coup). I think the tanks in question may have been fitted with dozer blades too.
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02-25-2019, 09:43 AM | #43 |
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Re: GURPS: Getting Run Over by a Tank
Yes. A lot of things in GURPS Action 5: Dictionary of Danger will just kill you if you lack Luck, another kind of meta-game resource, or unrealistically high HT and HP – or unless the GM has switched on the cinematic options on pp. 37-38 of GURPS Action 2: Exploits (rules like "Cinematic Explosions," "Flesh Wounds," "Near Thing," "Second Wind," "Shake It Off," and "TV Action Violence"), which are assumed to be in effect in this genre. I'd hesitate to call most of the dangers realistic, but they're definitely on the gritty side of cinematic unless other aspects of the game are cinematic (character abilities, Impulse Points, optional campaign settings, etc.).
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03-01-2019, 05:30 PM | #44 |
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03-22-2019, 01:07 PM | #45 |
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Ok, so I've been re reading Robert Liecke's "Helmet for my Pillow" WW2 memoirs, because I was absolutely positive it contained a firsthand account of the Stuart tanks on Guadacanal. But, I've re-read the book about three times now(it's a great memoir, I highly recommend it), and while they mention tanks at Tulgi point, it's not really indepth. But I knew I read that somewhere, and today while cleaning up the house, I found a copy of Bloody Ridge, by Michael B. Smith, which is an excellent book on the Gaudacanal campaign. And I got both Helmet and Bloody Ridge from the same retired Devil Dog, so I gues I just conflated them, as I spent a lot of time trying to match Liecke's accoutn up with the "official" accounts.
But at Tulgi point, the Stuart tanks did some running over of japanese soldiers, to the point that Marine Major General Vandegrift describe the backs of the tanks as looking like "meat grinders", after their assault. In addition, two japanese soldiers, Sgt Sadanobu Okada and Sgt Kuragane both survived tanks running over them, due to the roots of the coconut trees that kept the tanks from crushing them. Richard Tegaris describes a Japanese private whose torso looked like ground meat. So it seems like they're probably pretty lethal, but you can also survive them if the ground is really soft, or you have something that doesn't give to protect you.
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03-22-2019, 11:06 PM | #46 | |
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03-22-2019, 11:31 PM | #47 | |
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This isn't unique to the American experience in the pacific. There are accounts of airborne troopers with their bazookas ground up in their bodies in Italy. This would be echoed in Korea. I used to play the Microsoft game Close Combat, and one of the least fun times I ever had was being in charge or british paratrooper surrounded by german tanks. A mark 2 might be a joke when compared to any "serious" tanke, but the fact that it was able to ride around the woods my troops took cover in with immunity impressed me.
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03-24-2019, 04:10 PM | #48 | |
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That would probably be something like parrying. I think you can parry "Stomp Kick" but I don't know if you can parry trampling. Even if you weren't strong enough to stop a giant's foot from coming down on your torso, I could see pushing enough to slow them down. |
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