08-06-2012, 07:24 PM | #1 |
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A weird situation
Now let me explain the situation we ran into in our last munchkin game. So someone was at 5 levels and equipment included, he kick down the door and he turn over a level 2 monster. The thing is, he was under a curse that made him change his sex so he had a -5 to his combat level. 5 - 5 = 0 but!!! It is said in the rules that you cannot go under 1. Now he is 1 against 2 and lose.
That's where things get tricky, he says that since he his a warrior, he can discard a card and add + 1 to his combat force. He then do it and says 2 vs 2 I kill the monster! My question is: is he right? I mean that the penalty for changing sex is a -5 but since he was at 5, he dropped to 1 but then buffed himself by 1 to win the fight. Should the full penalty for the sex change still apply? He would still stand at 1 since 6 - 5 = 0. Sorry for my english, not my native language. I tried to explain myself in as few words as I could :) |
08-06-2012, 07:41 PM | #2 | |
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So, he isn't right in that, he would have a combat strenght of 0. But, since he is a Warrior, he can use his Berseker ability and discard two cards to make his level go up to 2. Since this is a tie, he wins. Note that after he does that other players may still play cards to buff the monster (or to lower his strenght even more).
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08-06-2012, 08:02 PM | #3 |
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Re: A weird situation
I was mistakenly under the impression that a monster's strength could not go below 1 but that a players could. So a monsters strength can be reduced to 0 or negative numbers but his level can't? Is there a way to even reduce a monster's level?
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08-06-2012, 08:14 PM | #4 |
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Re: A weird situation
The same works for the monsters: the Level is the value printed in the card. The monster's combat strenght can go to zero or less. It's Level is not changed unless the card say so.
Yes, there are a few cards that say to change the Level of the monster, but in expansions, not on the basic Fantasy set.
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08-06-2012, 08:20 PM | #5 |
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Re: A weird situation
What if I used my friend way of thinking but with monsters now? Example taken out from my head:
I'm fighting against a level 4 monster and I'm a level 3 munchkin. I play the card baby (direct translation from french, hope it's the good name) which states: -5 to the monster level, minimum 1. My friend then plays a card, +3 to the monster's side and says the monster's now level 4 you lose. Would he be right? Or the monster's level would still be loser than mine since 4 - 5 + 3 = 2( remember the lvl 1 minimum) and then beat it since I'm level 3. Last edited by BurnongWinter; 08-06-2012 at 08:29 PM. Reason: Changing completly my post |
08-06-2012, 08:26 PM | #6 | ||
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They changed the rules in 2010 so that virtually nothing changes the level of the munchkin or monsters (except a few cards like Typographical Error and Two-Headed). You have the choice of using the old rules or the new rules when using your old set, but to see that and the other changes made in 2010, take a look here. Quote:
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08-06-2012, 08:31 PM | #7 |
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Re: A weird situation
+ or - to Monster's Level would indicate an older printing of the set in question. As I have older sets of The Good, The Bad and The Munchkin and Munchkin Fu 2, I have some cards that read the old way.
If your cards say that, I'd recommend seeing if it's an older printing. The following quote is from the General Card Changes section of the Munchkin Change Log for the 2010 update found here. "All Monster Enhancers have had "Level of" deleted from their modifier description. Negative Monster Enhancers no longer say "Minimum Level 1," either."
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08-06-2012, 08:39 PM | #8 | |
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And I'm a bit confused, does a level 4 monster with a combat strengh of 2 get smashed by a munchkin with a combat strengh of 3? XD |
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08-06-2012, 09:10 PM | #9 |
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Re: A weird situation
One thing that hasn't been addressed: when we changed the rules, we deleted the part that said monsters' combat strengths could not be less than 1.
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08-06-2012, 09:17 PM | #10 | |
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