10-19-2018, 01:14 PM | #21 |
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10-19-2018, 02:38 PM | #22 | |
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10-19-2018, 02:43 PM | #23 | |
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10-19-2018, 02:44 PM | #24 | |
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10-19-2018, 06:14 PM | #25 |
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In the Islamic world a Ghulam (plural Ghilman) was a slave soldier. They were elite, well payed, often rich and slave owning themselves.
Ghulam literally means boy, and is used in the Koran to refer to servants in Paradise. Eventually it was felt that it had pejorative, homoerotic connotations and was replaced by Mamluk. Mamluk means the owned. The Mamluks became sufficiently powerful as to found no less than seven dynasties. Then there are the Janissaries. They differ from Ghilman only in that they were Christian slaves before converting to Islam. |
10-20-2018, 10:29 PM | #26 | |
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10-21-2018, 05:03 AM | #27 |
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Bektashi? Janisarries made up most Bakteshi, but the order was neither exclusive, not completely secret: there are Bektashis in Detroit.
But the idea of an elite closed society of "slaves" with their own peculiar rituals is a fun one.
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10-21-2018, 02:42 PM | #29 | |
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Duty is iffy. Slaves were generally expected to spend a portion of their time performing a job for their owner. The rest of their time was their own. That said, they didnt get a choice in the matter. Also, in many cultures, owners were expected to treat their slaves well - animal abuse is still abuse - and how well slaves were treated affected ones own Status - sort of like how some people today lavish their purserats with designer label clothing and spa treatments. So the social pressures to treat slaves well could soften that duty to being treated as a job that is paid in food and shelter. Want food? Do your job. Don't do your job, maybe you don't get fed until you do.
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From my research was that Slaves in Antiquity were not commodities but the form of production. Slaves were treated fairly well because that's what helped to fund wars. Many Roman and Greek armies had freed slaves (ie a tribute from the land owners to gain more slaves from the conquest). |
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