11-09-2014, 09:43 AM | #1 |
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Insubstantial flyer
Now .. since insubstantial is not affected by environment...
What would be the "swim" speed for a character with 1024 enhanced air flight? How about space flight speed? If the character falls unconscious under water does he still float? |
11-09-2014, 10:12 AM | #2 | |
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If knocked unconscious, the character will not float. The character won't drown either, but will suffocate.
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11-09-2014, 10:44 AM | #3 | |
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And no for standard insubstantiality he doesn't float when unconscious. He doesn't fall either. If he doesn't will himself to move, he doesn't. Well OK, Insubstantial does assume you can stay with a large moving object (like the planet, a ship, or an elevator) for free, but that's a matter of play convenience. If you are wondering if you float, you are probably trying to think too hard about an effect that routinely defies logic.
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11-09-2014, 07:25 PM | #4 |
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So an insubstantial bird must walk across the sky? Does that not sound silly to anyone else?
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11-09-2014, 07:38 PM | #5 |
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11-09-2014, 07:39 PM | #6 | |
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Feel free to extend your wings while translating insubstantially and call it "flying", if you like. But whatever translation mechanism you get while insubtantial, it's not the same as your normal state ones. Insubstantial feet can't push off the ground; insubstantial wings can't push air; insubstantial fins can't push water. You get the levitating drifting ghost move instead -- though that can look like whatever you want, as that's just a special effect. If you want to move faster while insubstantial, I'd allow the ghost bird to buy Enhanced Move (Insubstantial). If it can also fly quickly in normal state, it might have Flight with Enhanced Move as well. |
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11-10-2014, 03:01 AM | #7 |
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Re: Insubstantial flyer
I suppose it sounds fair in a game mechanics fashion, but still sounds silly to me on the face of it.
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11-10-2014, 03:32 AM | #8 |
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11-10-2014, 04:16 AM | #9 | |
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First and foremost, flight is movement above the ground. Unlimited Insubstantial allows movement above the ground but at base Move rate. I see only minimal issue with allowing those that paid for Flight proper to use the double movement when insubstantial. It's not like they would be getting something for free. But I'm not married to the idea and could be convinced from a meta-gaming perspective.
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11-10-2014, 04:53 AM | #10 | |
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