Cuteness

[Flyndaran]

So ugly they're cute might mean ugliness plus a leveled version of pitiable. The very definition of Pugs. :)

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Mgellis

Y
And, yes, it only goes so far...perhaps Professional Skill (Butcher) includes a bonus to Will rolls against the cuteness of baby animals? :)

No, they just decline to make a reaction roll with their raw material. Their reaction to them is already established before they lay eyes on them.

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

No, they just decline to make a reaction roll with their raw material. Their reaction to them is already established before they lay eyes on them.

Right there, calling them raw material instead of living breathing feeling animals is one method to handle the stress of killing "teh cute".
And you can't choose to avoid reaction rolls in realistic situations.

[bcd]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

And you can't choose to avoid reaction rolls in realistic situations.

Either you're a PC and don't usually make reaction rolls anyway, or else you're an NPC and the GM can arbitrarily decide your reaction without rolling for it. In the latter case it would seem rather routine for the GM to forego a reaction roll for an experienced butcher about to butcher an animal.

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by bcd

Either you're a PC and don't usually make reaction rolls anyway, or else you're an NPC and the GM can arbitrarily decide your reaction without rolling for it. In the latter case it would seem rather routine for the GM to forego a reaction roll for an experienced butcher about to butcher an animal.

I did say realistic. In game, many rolls are avoided for speed of play no matter how unrealistic they may be at the time.

And I imagine that butchers every once in a while might have to avoid looking at animals in the eye in order to avoid hesitation. For one's job, that's what I would call a "positive" reaction.

[Danukian]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Many humans eat rabbits, cats, lambs, etc.
The sound of stomach growling beats the "dawwww" any day.

Awwww.... That is just the cutest bacon I ever did see... now hop up on my burger, Porky!

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by Danukian

Awwww.... That is just the cutest bacon I ever did see... now hop up on my burger, Porky!

Yep. I refuse to eat mammals, but if push came to shove, and I had to choose kill or starve, I cannot say with any certainty what I would do.

[cmdicely]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

No, they just decline to make a reaction roll with their raw material. Their reaction to them is already established before they lay eyes on them.

Or, you just have to interpret the reaction categories appropriate for the situation for someone who has to kill and butcher an animal either for immediate survival (e.g., food) or to provide for themselves through commerce, a Good reaction (which usually provides reasonable assistance, etc.) doesn't, to me, mean they don't kill the animal, it just affects how far they go out of their way to make the killing humane.

An Excellent reaction (which often means unconditionally putting the subject's interest ahead of the NPC making the roll) could mean that, and possibly even a Very Good reactionin some situations (Very Good will usually allow things which go beyond what is reasonable but not to the extent of totally unreasonable.)

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Right there, calling them raw material instead of living breathing feeling animals is one method to handle the stress of killing "teh cute".
And you can't choose to avoid reaction rolls in realistic situations.

Sure I can. I can kill them on sight.

[Mark Skarr]

Originally Posted by cmdicely

Or, you just have to interpret the reaction categories appropriate for the situation for someone who has to kill and butcher an animal either for immediate survival (e.g., food) or to provide for themselves through commerce, a Good reaction (which usually provides reasonable assistance, etc.) doesn't, to me, mean they don't kill the animal, it just affects how far they go out of their way to make the killing humane.

An Excellent reaction (which often means unconditionally putting the subject's interest ahead of the NPC making the roll) could mean that, and possibly even a Very Good reactionin some situations (Very Good will usually allow things which go beyond what is reasonable but not to the extent of totally unreasonable.)

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Sure I can. I can kill them on sight.

I grew up on a farm and I can tell you that, unless the animal did something incredible (saved your life, could play the piano, not that either of those ever came up), when it came time to kill them for food you did. We did, however, save one chicken because she was a very good ratter and would stun the rats in the chickin coup and throw them out for the horses to trample.

Sure, the first few years, it messed me up (I was between 4 and 6), but after that, it was just part of life. There was no "reaction roll" it just was the way it was.

Sure, for people who've never had to raise their own food, I'm sure that it's pretty traumatic and they're not mentally capable of handling it, but I've done it before and I could easily do it again. Just because the baby goat is adorable doesn't mean I'm going to go hungry. They're also incredibly stupid, dirty animals without a chicken's common sense.