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Old 01-11-2019, 02:39 PM   #111
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The Democratic and Republican Parties would use their influence over state governments to get the Genesis Party blocked from the ballot...
How are they supposed to block it from the ballot?
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:41 PM   #112
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Actually, not in the United States. We have this thing called the Supreme Court.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:46 PM   #113
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So what is your actual approach?
I think it is very plausible to get new candidates in the political ecosystem. Isnt it?

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Old 01-11-2019, 02:48 PM   #114
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How are [Democrat and Republican parties] supposed to block it from the ballot?
You said it yourself: "... with the political system taken over by puppets Genesis will be able to enact and revoke laws according to its needs."

Who do you think currently controls the political system?


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I think it is very plausible to get new candidates in the political ecosystem. Isnt it?
That seems like a complete non sequitur to the rules related question whswhs asked you.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:50 PM   #115
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Of course none of that is going to address the (im)plausibility of the history, scale, strategy, corporate structure, business plan, or hopes for secrecy of Genesis in the first place. Actually, I can't really see what this political game is supposed to achieve at all, and never mind that spending money is not the sole determinant of election success.
Winning the lawsuit for monopolistic practices is a good start. Change a few laws here and there so Genesis do not have to do step-by-step manuals about its products as well. And everything can happily end with the support of the United States for the creation of a new nation in Antarctica.

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Old 01-11-2019, 02:54 PM   #116
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You said it yourself: "... with the political system taken over by puppets Genesis will be able to enact and revoke laws according to its needs."
What does that mean? Are they supposed to change the constitution? To block 70% of the votes? Will this be possible realistically without risking civil war?
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:58 PM   #117
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Winning the lawsuit for monopolistic practices is a good start. Change a few laws here and there so Genesis do not have to do step-by-step manuals about its products as well.
But that's not the start.

The start is getting the resources to become capable of any of those things in the first place. (For example, see my previous questions.)



(BTW, even if it were conceivable to take over the U.S. government and get away with turning it into the United Slaves of Genesis, that still leaves out the whole REST of the world.)


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What does that mean? Are they supposed to change the constitution? To block 70% of the votes? Will this be possible realistically without risking civil war?
You appear to think that when Genesis controls the government it can do whatever it wants. I am pointing out to you that the Dems and Reps DO control the government now.
Goose meet Gander.

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Old 01-11-2019, 02:58 PM   #118
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How are they supposed to block it from the ballot?
US Federal election laws are specifically engineering to make it highly illegal for a corporation to donate $2 billion to any one presidential candidate. And if you think you've got some clever way around it, other clever people have already thought about that scheme and made it illegal.

The only real exception to that rule is a senior member of the corporate hierarchy taking his personal fortune and spending it to run, which is completely legal. But it has to actually be her money that she has paid taxes on and could use for something else. Any compensation by the corporation would be highly illegal.

Separately, the US uses dozens of wildly differing systems for getting on the ballot for each elected office. It is not trivial and it has taken the minority parties like the Greens and the Libertarians multiple elections to figure out the process. Your hypothetical corporation can't just buy that knowledge.

Finally, since the goal of the corporation is to buy off the US government so as to get the anti-trust laws changed so it can merge with multiple other corporations and become large enough to buy off the US government, it looks like the proposed method for solving the problem requires that the problem be solved first.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:00 PM   #119
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Actually, not in the United States. We have this thing called the Supreme Court.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:04 PM   #120
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You appear to think that when Genesis controls the government it can do whatever it wants. I am pointing out to you that the Dems and Reps DO control the government now.
Goose meet Gander.
Not at all. They will just put down the Federal Trade Commission Act of 1914 and the Clayton Antitrust Act of 1914 to start with.
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