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04-09-2020, 10:39 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Pacheco, California
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Belt dagger limit
ITL 65: "A limited amount of gear can be carried on the belt, where it is out of the way but can be readied quickly. You may carry up to six items on your belt. No more than two may be “large” (over 2 lbs.)."
Since daggers (or flasks) aren't over 2 lbs you can carry six on the belt, right? ITL 107: "A character can have two secondary weapons and/or shields slung at his side. Daggers or flasks on the belt are also secondary weapons." I.e. only two daggers can be worn on the belt. Which is correct?
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04-09-2020, 10:45 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: New England
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Re: Belt dagger limit
The items slung at the side are slung, not worn on the belt.
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04-09-2020, 01:30 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Carrboro, NC
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Re: Belt dagger limit
I think it's realistic to have 20 or 30 daggers, if they're flat and made to stack compactly in a belt loop or holster. But as a GM, I'd make the character have to deal with the social repercussions of looking like a doofus.
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04-09-2020, 02:11 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Cali
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Re: Belt dagger limit
ITL pg. 107 3rd parapgraph , right column:
" A secondary weapon (not Ready, not in the hand) is a weapon slung at the Character's side. It takes one turn to switch from ready weapon to secondary weapon; the secondary weapon then becomes ready and can be used next turn. A character can have TWO SECONDARY weapons and/or Shields slung at his side. DAGGERS or Flask ON THE BELT are ALSO secondary weapons. " It's clear to me that you are quite limited as to how many weapons you can have slung or on a belt. |
04-09-2020, 02:20 PM | #6 | |
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Luxembourg
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Re: Belt dagger limit
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04-09-2020, 02:36 PM | #7 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Belt dagger limit
I think it's up to a contest of GM discretion versus player ingenuity to determine how many daggers can be carried in what way, and what it takes to ready them. The GM always wins, but may be swayed. However:
* At least two weapons on a belt are clearly allowed. * Looks to me like you can have 2 weapons slung, plus up to 4 others if they are 2 lbs or less. (But GMs who don't like this may think the limit for weapons that can be readied without difficulty is 2.) * Other clever places might be allowed in addition to that, if the GM is convinced, but the GM may assign extra difficulty readying them. (I also notice that GURPS has slightly different guidance on the same subject, including a bit I thought was in TFT, but isn't, which says, "Theoretically, you could have a dozen weapons hanging at your belt or scabbarded about your person. In practice, anybody who carries more than one or two extra weapons (plus a dagger) is usually being unrealistic, or just silly. The GM is the final arbiter.") |
04-17-2020, 06:39 AM | #8 | |
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Re: Belt dagger limit
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It seems clear to me that belt implies more than a simple strip of leather or rope to hold up ones pants and the actual location is not necessarily just at ones side. I say that because the text speaks of slinging a shield from it, with no mention of type. Try hanging a tower shield from a belt around your waist and then running, walking, etc. I believe these two rules are making sure that characters are outfitted sensibly as for equipment and what is available in combat. While on the topic, is a quiver of arrows one of the secondary weapons? Personally, I would say that it is. |
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04-23-2020, 09:38 AM | #9 | |
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Arizona
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Re: Belt dagger limit
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I would posit that there are actually 7 belt slots, one being specifically for the 'ready weapon' when you aren't carrying it in your hand. This, however, would depend on your ready weapon. If you carry a one handed weapon you have a sheath or ring on your belt and for some two-handed weapons it would be slung over your shoulder in some way. But it's obvious that you aren't going to hang that Halberd from your 'belt' no matter what form it takes.
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04-25-2020, 01:09 PM | #10 |
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Re: Belt dagger limit
"If you carry a one handed weapon you have a sheath or ring on your belt and for some two-handed weapons it would be slung over your shoulder in some way."
Actually, two handed swords, at least, tend to be too long to put over your shoulder, if you intend to draw them from a sheath. Try it sometime with a broomstick or some such. Assume about 38" of blade, mark where the crosspiece is with tape. The short part beyond the tape is your grip. Pin a small loop of cloth to your shoulder to represent the mouth of the swords sheath. Slip the blade through the loop, grab the grip and try drawing it. I think you will find yourself stuck, with the last few inches of the blade still in the loop and the blade perilously close to your own carotid artery. Place the same at your left hip and a draw across your body with your right hand is possible. |
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