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Old 01-17-2018, 11:22 AM   #1
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My search-fu failed me so...

Does the damage bonus from Karate translate to the swing damage from Bladed Hand, or is it only to the thrusting damage? RAW seems to imply only the thrusting damage, but my GCA is adding damage to the swing as well. Not on a per die basis, but the same overall bonus that the thrust is getting.

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Old 01-17-2018, 12:02 PM   #2
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See Martial Arts p. 226. Bladed hand has note [4] on both lines.
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:10 PM   #3
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OK. Thanks. The reason I even asked is because GCA seems to be messing it up when it comes to the swing component. It's adding the same amount to both the thrust and swing damage.
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OK. Thanks. The reason I even asked is because GCA seems to be messing it up when it comes to the swing component. It's adding the same amount to both the thrust and swing damage.
Isn't there a drop down that changes what it bases the damage on?
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The problem is that it is pulling the dice to base the bonus on from the Punch stat, which is almost always thrust...but not in this case.
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Loaded Basic Set and Martial Arts and made a character with ST 18 DX 10 Karate-12 and a bladed hand. The damage is 3d+4 sw cut/1d+4 thr imp. This appears to be correct. Damage for bladed hand is sw-2 cut/thr imp and damage bonus is +2/die so 3d-2+6=3d+4 and 1d+2+2=1d+4.

Are you maybe forgetting that it is sw-2?
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Nope. Loaded just Basic and MA4. 18 ST, 10 DX, 11 Karate gives 3d damage instead of the 3d+4. Damage starts off at 3d-2 with no Karate skill and/or skill <10.
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Nope. Loaded just Basic and MA4. 18 ST, 10 DX, 11 Karate gives 3d damage instead of the 3d+4. Damage starts off at 3d-2 with no Karate skill and/or skill <10.
Seems like GCA problem. Maybe ask in that forum?
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Old 01-18-2018, 03:28 PM   #9
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I'm looking at Bladed Hand in the Martial Arts data file right now.

The Swing mode for it gives base damage based on sw, but bonus damage based on basic Punch (thr) damage. Note that Karate in the Basic Set specifically applies bonus damage based on *thrust only*.

So, by my reading of the rules, the bonus is based on thrust damage, even if the attack uses swing damage. I assume that's why the files were written that way, also.

If there's a ruling somewhere that's different, we can change the files. If you'd like me to tell you how you can change it yourself for you game, I can do that.
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The Swing mode for it gives base damage based on sw, but bonus damage based on basic Punch (thr) damage. Note that Karate in the Basic Set specifically applies bonus damage based on *thrust only*.
Note 4 says it applies to swing damage too.
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So, by my reading of the rules, the bonus is based on thrust damage, even if the attack uses swing damage. I assume that's why the files were written that way, also.
I'm not sure how that would even work.

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If there's a ruling somewhere that's different, we can change the files. If you'd like me to tell you how you can change it yourself for you game, I can do that.
My GCA is giving 3d+4, without modification, so something is different somewhere.
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