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Old 09-29-2012, 11:59 AM   #11
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... sooner or later she would have wanted band attunements - and she was already at her maximum (15) Forces. So she'd have had to shed a human Force to make room for the demonic one every time she wanted a Band Attunement. To get 15 Band attunements, she would have needed to replace every one of her Forces.
Personally, I can't see her replacing all her forces this way. That makes her, in many ways, really a demon. That's closing off options. Which is not what her Word is about.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:52 PM   #12
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I'd say that it's quite likely that Lilith has met her Fate, and fairly probable that she's met her Destiny too, as long as they're not mutually exclusive, so if she actually died, the disposition of her would be an open question.
I'd count it as a near-certainty that Lilith's are "honor, serve, and obey Ahadam Kadmon" and "taste the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge" - so bizarrely enough, the World's Most Accomplished Human probably accomplished neither.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:39 PM   #13
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the World's Most Accomplished Human probably accomplished neither.
Is Lilith actually human? She's the product of separate creation.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:53 PM   #14
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Is Lilith actually human?
Yeah. That's, like, her thing.

(In my personal canon she's not a woman, mind you, but a member of the sex that complemented the sex that Adam Kadmon was before he was split up into Adam and Hava, and she naturally has horns and that's why Impudites and Lilim have horns, and okay shutting up now.)
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:37 AM   #15
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I was only aware of seven Bands ... no, wait, Beleth has a band all her own ... eight bands. Why would Lilith need to replace all 15 of her Forces?
Each Force only grants access to one Band Attunement - that of the Demon's Band+Word. So if she wants both Impudite of Factions and Balseraph of Lust, then she needs to replace 2 Forces.
With over 100 Band attunements on offer currently, plus those from deceased superiors, she'd have capped out early.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:54 AM   #16
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Unless you're using Word-Forces, of course, in which case she could presumably keep sticking them on till she reached the limits of Word-Forces.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #17
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Unless you're using Word-Forces, of course, in which case she could presumably keep sticking them on till she reached the limits of Word-Forces.
Which, need we be reminded, don't actually exist as a limit or hard cap. It's just that pushing them past the natural capability of Freedom as a Word would reduce in Lilith decaying to her baseline state after a while... with the attunements, because if it was designer intent that you lose an attunement if you lose the Force it came with, that would be in the rules.
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