GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 3: Born of Myth & Magic

[simply Nathan]

Originally Posted by Bruno

I think Banestorm has Griffin stats. EDIT: No, it has gryphons :D and hippogriffs (along with basilisks, caustiguses, demons, giant spiders, harpies, hellsharks, hydras, krakens, nightstalkers, wyverns...

Pretty sure there are stats for a gryphon in the Basic Set too. All they're missing is damage and they're good to go as DF monster stat blocks.

[Dammann]

I've noticed that DF monsters with analogs in other supplements are just a touch bigger, tougher, and often with an extra shtick. Harpies get the scream attack to trigger a fear check, for example. I would beef up gryphons a bit, maybe even move them up one SM. I might give them a shriek that causes stun or something, too, for when they dive.

[Pseudonym]

I got an email saying that there was an update, what changed?

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Pseudonym

I got an email saying that there was an update, what changed?

I saw a few small typos on my read-through, and Steven posted in the W23 thread that they'd corrected Medusa's traits to Unkillable 1.

[scc]

Originally Posted by Bruno

Does using Infravision still trigger the Medusa's curse? Does Sound Vision/Sonar or other scanning senses?

I'm inclined to say that Infravision/Ultravsion/Darkvision are still vision (absent an interesting special effect) and still count, but e.g. Scanning Senses, precise Detects, or Smell upgraded to be a precise targeting sense (as per Enhanced Senses) don't.

Except possibly ladar, which is kind of like seeing in a funny way.

I believe this has come up before, and from what I remember Infravision doesn't need light to work, so it wouldn't trigger the Medusa's curse, it's basically a 'psychic' power that allows you to see in the dark.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by scc

I believe this has come up before, and from what I remember Infravision doesn't need light to work, so it wouldn't trigger the Medusa's curse, it's basically a 'psychic' power that allows you to see in the dark.

That's... a very strange interpretation of "infravision". Is that some sort of D&D thing?

The Basic Set description opens up with "You can see into the infrared portion of the spectrum, allowing you to detect varying degrees of heat." - That's the electromagnetic spectrum - that's light. It's light below the human vision range, but it's still light.

[scc]

Sorry, confusing it with Dark Vision. I think that's the area where a revised edition would be useful, with all the rules advancements we've had for rules like these a revision would put them in a single document with clear marking

[Arcanjo7Sagi]

Originally Posted by DFM 3, Born of Myth & Magic, pg 15

Immortal: Add Unkillable 1 (Dies only at ‑10xHP; Achilles’ Heel, Decapitation). If the medusa is struck by a cutting attack to the neck that would normally trigger a HT roll to avoid death, she must roll, with failure meaning permanent death.

Just for curiosity, how much is worth this limitation? I don't remember seeing a value for this kind of situation (decapitation) in any book.

[Pseudonym]

Originally Posted by Arcanjo7Sagi

Just for curiosity, how much is worth this limitation? I don't remember seeing a value for this kind of situation (decapitation) in any book.

I'd call it "common" as it is an option to almost anyone with a cutting weapon, which isn't very hard to find for the kind of people that might be fighting a medusa, and that would make it worth -50% according to basic set.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Arcanjo7Sagi

Just for curiosity, how much is worth this limitation? I don't remember seeing a value for this kind of situation (decapitation) in any book.

Decapitation would be Occasional - it's effectively "Vulnerability (Cutting attacks to the neck)." GURPS Horror has some notes about this on p. 58.