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Old 05-19-2011, 01:48 PM   #11
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Totally agree with you Palmer. My friend would not accept that I should gain a level as a helper in addition to receiving half of the treasures. I showed my friend this thread and I think he's beginning to see the light. This aspect of the game makes Munchkin so good!
This is where anyone I play with would make themselves lose just to spite me. xD I do stuff like this WAY too often.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:27 PM   #12
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Totally agree with you Palmer. My friend would not accept that I should gain a level as a helper in addition to receiving half of the treasures. I showed my friend this thread and I think he's beginning to see the light. This aspect of the game makes Munchkin so good!
Here's how I see it.
If nothing else, neither of you can win the fight alone.
It's a team effort.

So why should one of you get a bigger reward?
You both get a level and equal treasures. If anything, that's MORE fair than before.

In big battles with lots of treasure, I frequently see the helper get more than half to compensate for not getting a level.

Either way, a deal is a deal. Even if the circumstances change, the deal holds
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:43 PM   #13
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Here's how I see it.
If nothing else, neither of you can win the fight alone.
It's a team effort.

So why should one of you get a bigger reward?
You both get a level and equal treasures. If anything, that's MORE fair than before.

In big battles with lots of treasure, I frequently see the helper get more than half to compensate for not getting a level.

Either way, a deal is a deal. Even if the circumstances change, the deal holds
Not only that, but the helper needs to play a card to get that level. It was his card to play so I don't see how that would ever make the deal bad or renegotiable. It doesn't make very much sense to me how the main combatant could even argue that they should get a better deal now. The card isn't played for the purpose of giving the main combatant more treasure. Just doesn't make sense.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:11 AM   #14
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Thanks everyone for the input. (c:`,
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:10 AM   #15
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My friend would not accept that I should gain a level as a helper in addition to receiving half of the treasures. I showed my friend this thread and I think he's beginning to see the light.
Point of order: unless a card specifically says otherwise, you can't negotiate for levels. Treasure cards, including GUALs, are fair game, but you can't just say (for instance) "the monster's worth two levels and five treasures; I'll give you one and two."
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:13 AM   #16
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Point of order: unless a card specifically says otherwise, you can't negotiate for levels. Treasure cards, including GUALs, are fair game, but you can't just say (for instance) "the monster's worth two levels and five treasures; I'll give you one and two."
Point of rebuttal: read the original post. He used a Munchkinomicon spell that gave him a level.
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:05 PM   #17
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i was a level 7 and asked help from the highest combat level guy to beat a monster while i was looking for trouble, he agreed for all the treasures, so i threw down the monster and 2 level up cards then chanted the 2.6 seconds and won the game, lucky for me i don't play with cry babies we all laughed and started a new game...
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:25 PM   #18
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I make good deals, but even then sometimes something like this happens.
I shrug it off and accept the changed situation,; sometimes I even applaud a very Munchkinly action, because I know that next time, I'll be playing Curse! Change Race on myself when I'm helping in a combat to become an Elf ;)
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:01 PM   #19
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Point of rebuttal: read the original post. He used a Munchkinomicon spell that gave him a level.
True enough - just clarifying that levels aren't something that can normally be offered to a helper, as that's a mistake I see relatively often. As I noted, card-based exceptions are a different story, and that Spell is obviously one such exception.
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:59 PM   #20
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Is it true that you can re-negotiate after a deal has been made? Seems to defeat the purpose of binding deals.
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