[IW] Ordinary Worlds with valuables!

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by malloyd

How does that help. If I can Q-test stuff and decide its valueless because it comes from an alternate world, then it's valueless. The whole pont here is to find stuff that *isn't* valueless *despite* the fact it comes from an alternate world.

It could matter exactly which alternate an item came from. Stuff from porn star Marilyn Monroe is more valuable than librarian Monroe, and I'm not talking about the movies themselves.
I want art from only the devout X religion Da Vinci of world Y, not from some heathen.

[Astromancer]

Null-Hitler-5 is a Q6 world popular with Homeline film students. Two Hollywood studios are secretly owned by Homeline.

The local year is 1944, Hitler died in a car crash in early 1942. The major Nazis started to fight each other visciously. The Western allies marched into Germany in December 1943. Stalin held on to Poland and took large areas of Eastern Europe ( but far less than in our world).

Hollywood has most of the same stars and major talents it had on Homeline in the 1940's. However, the Homeline owned studios give the local talent an artistic freedom unknown elsewhere in Hollywood. This creates dozens of highly distinctive films which are profitable on Homeline and, because they feature stars of proven durablity, they are likely to stay profitable for decades.

Experiments with fantasy and science fiction are very well reguarded on Homeline. Barbara Stanwyck is bigger than ever on Homeline because of her Sci Fi blockbusters.

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by Astromancer

The local year is 1944, Hitler died in a car crash in early 1942. The major Nazis started to fight each other visciously. The Western allies marched into Germany in December 1943.

If Hitler's death is the divergence point, I'm not sure that works. The Wehrmacht will conserve their strength better without Hitler's insistence on holding ground, and getting them to pull troops out of France to fight in a civil war will be very difficult; they can claim accurately that all this infighting wastes German strength, and it would not be happening if Hitler was still around. It's also necessary to win the Battle of the Atlantic before a large US army in Europe can be supplied and supported adequately.

While senior Nazis may well start killing each other with the aid of the non-Waffen-SS, their trying to get the Generals to take sides risks getting themselves locked up or shot.

[arcanus]

Originally Posted by johndallman

If Hitler's death is the divergence point, I'm not sure that works.

While senior Nazis may well start killing each other with the aid of the non-Waffen-SS, their trying to get the Generals to take sides risks getting themselves locked up or shot.

In most worldlines I agree the Allies would be real trouble facing an unrestrained Wehrmacht, however what if the infighting escalates quickly and as brutally as the pre-war purges of the SA.

Each Nazi terrified their next strikes first, those with influence over the SS and Waffen SS target Wehrmacht generals and aides who might be sought as an ally by a rival.

Within a short space of time the Nazis cannibalise themselves and anyone they fear could aid an enemy, of course an interesting consequence could be senior Nazis fleeing Germany and potentially evading trial.

[dcarson]

If the infighting weakens the Nazi hold enough that the Wehrmacht can surrender with minimal conditions it might end early. They couldn't get many, the allies had already decided to not allow any but if the army turned on the Nazis they might allow some. Germany post war would be in better shape without the damage from the last of the fighting but still occupied and divided.

[Astromancer]

Originally Posted by johndallman

If Hitler's death is the divergence point, I'm not sure that works. The Wehrmacht will conserve their strength better without Hitler's insistence on holding ground, and getting them to pull troops out of France to fight in a civil war will be very difficult; they can claim accurately that all this infighting wastes German strength, and it would not be happening if Hitler was still around. It's also necessary to win the Battle of the Atlantic before a large US army in Europe can be supplied and supported adequately.

While senior Nazis may well start killing each other with the aid of the non-Waffen-SS, their trying to get the Generals to take sides risks getting themselves locked up or shot.

Hey the whole point of this seting is that Homeline has a classic period Hollywood studio under their control and can hire Kathrine Hepburn, Humphery Bogart, Gary Cooper, Betty Davis, Buster Keaton, ect....at will. Ending WWII early is just a nice icing to the cake. Make WWII, a vital context, end early your way, and have the Nazis and the Soviets take each other down however you like.

Me, I'm going to enjoy the Hollywood glam. ;-)

[Astromancer]

Originally Posted by dcarson

If the infighting weakens the Nazi hold enough that the Wehrmacht can surrender with minimal conditions it might end early. They couldn't get many, the allies had already decided to not allow any but if the army turned on the Nazis they might allow some. Germany post war would be in better shape without the damage from the last of the fighting but still occupied and divided.

The Reds are busy elsewhere, and although Stalin grabbed Poland and Slovokia, the Czechs have an independent state and Germany is held by the Western allies. This is meant to be a happier less bloody world that homeline goes to to get classic Holly talent to make films for them.

[adm]

One of the best parts of WW II ending early, is that the most of the
Holocaust is avoided. For the Hollywood effect that saves a number of European actors. Although you would then be more likely to wind up with Russia in post war Japan.

[Astromancer]

Originally Posted by adm

One of the best parts of WW II ending early, is that the most of the
Holocaust is avoided. For the Hollywood effect that saves a number of European actors. Although you would then be more likely to wind up with Russia in post war Japan.

Well, in this world Stalin is more restrained. Because, this world is a fan's dream world, so the Japanese film industry is largely untouched and Homeline plans on getting in on that action too. ;-)

[dcarson]

Knowing who will eventually be a top star and being able to hire them earlier would be interesting. In some cases it might ruin them with too much celebrity too early. In some case detox or a prescription of antidepressants might get many years more of movies out of them.