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02-17-2013, 06:49 PM | #782 |
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In contrast, Robert E Howard's Hyborian Age has the order of relationships to realms of the past stands nearly reversed.
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Like the moral nature of the Orcs, or even their origins, this may be something he saw differently at different stages in his writing and afterward. |
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02-17-2013, 07:44 PM | #784 | |
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02-17-2013, 09:56 PM | #785 | |
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It's a complicated concept, he seemed to have some trouble finding the words for what he meant, but ME is 'subcreational secondary reality' in the same sense that most fiction is. He also used the subcreational concept to refer to any case where any being 'creates' something. Morgoth, for ex, was acting 'subcreatively' when he invented evil, and Feanor was acting subcreatively when he made the Silmarils. |
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02-17-2013, 09:59 PM | #786 | |
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Apparently, both JRRT and his son Christopher were haunted by a dream of a land being drowned under an immense wave, which they both had independently of each other. This seems to have been a root of the Numenor stories, too. |
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02-17-2013, 10:04 PM | #787 | |
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