03-04-2021, 02:39 AM | #11 |
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Re: Real life hangers on at Renaissance royal courts?
Right, and this brings up the merchants and their relationship with the court. The guy advertising his wines by defining hmself as a purveyor of the royal house would almost certainly be a commoner. But he'd probably strike some deal with a nobleman living at the court. This would be yet another source of income for the nobleman - nothing as base as a salary, and maybe not even a participation in the winery profits, but, maybe, the occasional "loan" the merchant would then forget about. The nobleman, as his part of the deal, would lobby for the winery at the court, try to prevent competition, provide additional clout just by being friendly with the merchant, and make sure the lackeys of other noblemen did not bother the delivery men or the like.
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03-04-2021, 08:05 AM | #12 | |
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03-04-2021, 09:38 AM | #13 | |
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03-04-2021, 11:29 AM | #14 |
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Re: Real life hangers on at Renaissance royal courts?
Note, however, that without a bureaucracy, getting that pension every month can be very difficult. "Oh, I'm sorry, the treasurer left for his estate. When he coming back? I don't know. No, I can't authorize any payments in the meanwhile."
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03-04-2021, 11:42 AM | #15 | |
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03-04-2021, 04:41 PM | #16 |
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There's also the role of professional suck-up; it's not a formal position, but sufficient flattery/charm/toadying towards someone who actually has got money can get you a place to stay in his manor or townhouse, 'loans' to be paid back on the 5th of never, secondhand court clothing, valuable gifts that can be quietly pawned, etc. In exchange, you hang around your patron at court, laugh at all his jokes, bully and harass his enemies and their toadies, go to his parties to make them look popular and generally act like a rockstar's entourage.
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03-04-2021, 04:44 PM | #17 |
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Re: Real life hangers on at Renaissance royal courts?
Pretty sure The Three Musketeers is the prototype for that.
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03-04-2021, 06:12 PM | #18 |
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Re: Real life hangers on at Renaissance royal courts?
Might want to look at the type of folks that hang around the US President or the Russian President. Using the US as the example, not so much the Cabinet officials but ones like the Press Secretary, National Security Advisor, White House Chef, the Secret Service agents assigned to Presidential duty, Personal lawyer, Personal Doctor, etc. Many of these are the modern versions of the types of jobs filled by the medieval Royal Courts.
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03-05-2021, 04:26 AM | #19 | |
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03-05-2021, 08:50 AM | #20 |
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Re: Real life hangers on at Renaissance royal courts?
There's also the various learned sorts that a Renaissance noble with pretensions to (or actual interest in) culture would patronize at court: alchemists, astrologers/astronomers, philosophers, poets, painters, sculptors, and so on. They provide entertainment as a sideline, but their main purpose is to bolster the patron's prestige.
And someone (or someones) in the court is definitely going to be a spymaster if the noble has any sense at all. |
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