03-29-2017, 04:56 PM | #11 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Military Equipment: Global War on Terror edition
Another aircraft:
AC-130 Gunship 3e stats for this can be found in GURPS Special Ops. Converting to 4e requires some guess work, but I think we're looking at something like: ST/HP: 182 Hnd/SR: +1/3 HT: 11f Move: 3/180 SM: +7 Occ: 13SP DR: 3 Range: 2,530 Loc.: g3WWi Stall: 58 Weapons include a howitzer, similar to the RIA M2A1 in High-Tech. I've heard conflicting things about the exact specifications of the AC-130's howitzer, High-Tech seems to think it's a shortened version, but Wikipedia suggests a longer gun. As a GM, I'd just use the RIA M2A1 as-written at least until I found better information. Other weapons include M61 autocannons and the Bofors M2A1 40mm cannon. The latter has stats in Special Ops, which converted to 4e come out as something like Dmg. 6d×6 (0.5) p++ + linked 3d [4d] cr ex, Acc 5, Range 3,000/9,600, RoF 2, Rcl 2. Also in Special Ops is the GE GAU-12/U Equalizer, 25×137mm cannon. Converted to 4e, it would have something like Dmg. 6d×4 (0.5) pi++ + linked 1d [2d] crushing explosive, Acc 5, Range 2,500 / 7,500, Rof 30, Rcl 2. |
03-29-2017, 04:57 PM | #12 | |
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Consider that Acc 4 covers anything from the MP5 through a wide variety of carbines in 5.56x45mm/.223 Remington, the AKM rifle and the SKS, the Barrett REC7 carbine in 6.8mm or the FN SCAR-H in 7.62x51mm in any barrel length shorter than 19.7-inch*. Even pistols like the USP Match in 9x19mm or an AMT Hardballer Longslide in .45 ACP have functionally the same Acc bonus when held in two hands (Braced) as a high-end carbine in a military rifle chambering fired from the shoulder. Acc 5 includes anything from budget .30-30 deer rifles, the Vietnam-era M16 firing M193 5.56x45mm and the RPK in 7.62x39mm up to such high-end, accurate and long ranged rifles as the G36, L86A2 Light Support Weapon, Steyr AUG with 24-inch barrel, Remington Model 700 in .308, FN BAR Magnum in .300 Win Mag and the FN SCAR, both in the 5.56x45mm Mk 16 MOD 0 Sniper Variant (18" barrel) and the 7.62x51mm Mk 17 MOD 0 SV (19.7" barrel). Acc 6 is basically all sniper rifles. *I'll admit I can't figure out how the 16-inch barrel SCAR-H in 7.62x51mm rates only Acc 4 while GURPS gives the HK33 and HK93A2 in 5.56x45mm Acc 5 despite the shorter 15.4-inch and 16.25-inch barrels and less powerful, flat-shooting and long-ranged round.
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03-29-2017, 05:14 PM | #15 | |
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Personally, I think there is room to make some sub-MOA sniper rifles in flat-shooting calibers with good ballistics Acc 7. This would allow some of the high-end long-barrelled DMR and Sniper Support rifles to have Acc 6, as, indeed, the SR-25 and M110 SASS already do. I'd also like to see some of the high-end 12-16" barrel recce rifles and carbines get Acc 5, as I don't really think that an inch or three more of barrel should make all commercial .223 rifles with 16-18" barrels much more accurate and effective than the 'M4 Sniper' with 14.5" barrel, the SCAR-L with 13.8" barrel, the HK416D145RS that Delta actually uses for recce rifles/DMR these days, let alone the FN SCAR-H with a 16" barrel that many SMUs seem to favour in the role nowadays. In game terms, I think that Fine (Accurate) would make sense for some of the carbines that GURPS currently makes Acc 4. Some 12" barrel carbines with rounds that perform better than .223 at long range might qualify, like the 6.8 SPC or the .50 Beowulf. And I think that many of the newest and shiniest assault rifle/carbine families ought to as well, if only to prevent in-unit gunsmithed stop-gap measures adopted until these were available from being clearly mechanically superior in GURPS. Upgrading an M4A1 to Fine (Accurate and Reliable) through two days of work and less than $500 in parts shouldn't be clearly mechanically superior to buying the latest $1,500+ carbine that JSOC and SOCOM selected instead. I'm fine with it being equivalent, but I'm leery of stats that essentially say that anyone with Armoury 12+ can easily do better with a basic workshop than top-notch industrial engineers ever do with the best high-tech factories.
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03-29-2017, 05:26 PM | #16 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Military Equipment: Global War on Terror edition
Now on to the bombers:
B-1 Lancer ST/HP: 208 Hnd/SR: +1/3 HT: 11f Move: 4/413 SM: +8 Occ: 4SP DR: 3 Range: 5,900 Loc.: g3WWi Stall: 64 Can carry a payload of 125,000 lbs. of bombs. B-2 Spirit Everyone's favorite stealth bomber. ST/HP: 195 Hnd/SR: +1/3 HT: 11f Move: 2/315 SM: +6 Occ: 2SP DR: 3 Range: 5,900 Loc.: g3WWi Stall: 70 Can carry a payload of 40,000 lbs. of bombs. Stealth technology should probably give -2, maybe -3 to enemy Electronics Operation (Radar) rolls to detect it. B-52 ST/HP: 205 Hnd/SR: +1/3 HT: 11f Move: 3/325 SM: +8 Occ: 5SP DR: 3 Range: 10,145 Loc.: g3WWi Stall: 85 Payload is 70,000 lbs. of bombs. Used to use an M61 as a tail gun, but according to Wikipedia this has been removed from all currently-operational aircraft. |
03-29-2017, 06:05 PM | #17 |
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Fighters: I'm not going to put too much effort into stating them out right now, since basic types are already covered in the "Dogfight Action!" Pyramid article I keep citing. An exception is the F-22 Raptor. Here's my attempt at stating it:
F-22 Raptor ST/HP: 136 Hnd/SR: +3/4 HT: 12f Move: 10/750 SM: +6 Occ: 1SP DR: 3 Range: 1,840 Loc.: g3WWi Stall: 60 Exact maximum speeds and stall speeds don't appear to be publicly available, though I've seen estimates of 1,500 mph for top speed, and stall speed is reportedly "very low". The AIM-120 missile is an important weapon for it, but I'm having trouble guessing at the statistics—I'm assuming it's ABF like the Sidewinder, but I'm not 100% certain, and if it is ABF we have very few examples to extrapolate from. Edit: Before I forget, the F-22 should have the same -2 to -3 radar stealth as the B-2 Spirit. Last edited by Michael Thayne; 03-30-2017 at 08:55 AM. |
03-29-2017, 06:40 PM | #18 |
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The UK and NZ marksman's rifles are desendants of the AR-10.
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03-29-2017, 06:53 PM | #19 |
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Indeed, though the UK, at least, also uses the 5.56x45mm L86A2 in the role.
In any case, I would never assign the L129A1 Acc 4 just because it had a 16" barrel and I can't figure out how the SCAR-H rates only Acc 4. These weapons are at least as mechanically accurate as any M16/AR-15 type rifle firing stock 5.56x45mm ammunition (more, in fact, as the M885 is only rated 2-3 MOA, no matter what rifle it's fired from), their 7.62x51mm rounds have superior ballistics and therefore a longer effective engament range and the SCAR-H, at least, seems to have excellent ergonomics.
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03-29-2017, 07:36 PM | #20 | |
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I believe there may have been a 3e write up but without much looking I can't tell you where. I may also just have seen Hans give stats for it once. But if your stats are for the 30mm from the AH-64 Apache of just for a "generic" 30mm the GAU-7 is a much more formidable weapon.
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