07-26-2017, 05:10 AM | #31 |
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Re: I was hoping for this
You can say that again! We have a complete plan of everything we want including but there are certain things we can't talk about yet for various reasons. We will have more information on what will be included very soon, apologies we can't say more than that for now!
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07-27-2017, 06:11 PM | #32 |
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Re: I was hoping for this
Darn it, I was going to answer some of those questions, but reading the above, I think I'd better let Auroch reveal things at its own speed, rather than leaking what I know from the things I have approved.
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07-27-2017, 06:40 PM | #33 | |
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Re: I was hoping for this
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07-27-2017, 07:07 PM | #34 |
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Re: I was hoping for this
Units - What factions will be available? Assuming PE and NAC to start, but will there be others? Especially with multiplayer, will there be an ability to pick paintjobs? Since most factions are just PE or NAC with different paint and logos...
Out-of-sequence attacks - This is specific to cruise missiles. How is the opportunity fire going to be handled for cruise missiles in a multi-human game (especially online)? Does play pause whenever the CM passes within range of a unit so it can try to shoot it down?
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07-27-2017, 07:30 PM | #35 | |
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07-28-2017, 11:08 AM | #36 |
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Re: I was hoping for this
Will the AI be federated (here is a group of units that can move and attack as a group) or single unit (GEV #3412, what is the best move you can make, without coordinating with other units)?
If it is single unit will you at least do two pass? I.e. first check to see if each unit can make an attack this turn, then sequence units from highest priority targets they can hit to lowest, with the resulting conditions being considered by lower priority units WRT stacking, etc.
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07-28-2017, 11:34 AM | #37 | |
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A classic example of this is a pair of GEVs attacking a single GEV. 2x2 Attack against 2D. It's a pair of 1-1 attacks or a single 2-1 attack. The math works out very differently depending which way you go, plus there's a side-benefit of a two 1-1 attacks. If you fire and are successful with the first 1-1 attack, you now have a "free" shot with the other GEV at some other target. That also leads to planning for primary/secondary target options. The logic is further impacted by stacking and spillover fire. with a stack of 2 GEVs, is it better to take a 2-1, with spillover against the second at 1-1, or two attacks at 1-1, with two spillover attacks at 1-2? etc
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07-28-2017, 02:08 PM | #38 |
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Re: I was hoping for this
If the AI decides what to do with each unit without considering what other units will do it'll be a short game and with lots of spill-over. I'm sure they'll do better than that. (Heck, you have to build an AI beefy enough to think about lots of units just to drive an Ogre through a defense in the basic game.)
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07-28-2017, 02:49 PM | #39 | ||
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As for the number of passes, a friend of mine who does AI for games once mentioned that the proper solution is a graph from which the computer player then picks the best outcome. With multiple units, the graph quickly gets complex, but that's why we made computers.
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07-29-2017, 01:47 PM | #40 |
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Re: I was hoping for this
And now we have some questions to which I do NOT know the answers, so I'm looking forward to learning them!
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