Price of Aluminum of Yrth?

[malloyd]

What's the goal here? If the GM wants cutting pole arms that will transmit magical contact, just add a new spell that will do that - GMs are free to introduce new spells and enchantments, or he can edit the text of Staff to let it work. If he doesn't, no amount of claiming the rules for the existing Staff enchantment should let it work will let you have one anyway, if necessary he can simply rule that version of Staff doesn't exist and substitute another one that explicitly forbids it.

Bending spells out of shape always strikes me as a strange option. If the GM wants a new spell, he can add it. If the player wants a spell to do something the GM doesn't want, no amount of rules lawyering should let it work anyway.

Other good options include normally it's impossible, but here's a Magical Style perk that lets you cast "Staff" on something forbidden but appropriate to the them of the style, or building some sort of Extra Spell Reach advantage that lets you do it with anything (you can probably build something "official" starting from Long Arm (from Extra Arm, with no arm), magic touch only, requires a physical item to make the reach, but I might just price it at 5 per hex arbitrarily and call it done.)

[simply Nathan]

Originally Posted by Phil Masters

So you get plain staffs and twisted gnarly staffs and so on, but a staff with an axe head would not be a staff, because it'd be an axe, and fitting an axe head to your staff would be like conducting brain surgery on yourself.

A wizard who is a dwarf, the eighth dwarf of an eighth dwarf, should be able to have his dwarf axe be his staff. I'd agree with charging an unusual background for this.

Or maybe a mace because, as you said, a wizard's staff has a knob on the end.

[Phil Masters]

Originally Posted by simply Nathan

A wizard who is a dwarf, the eighth dwarf of an eighth dwarf, should be able to have his dwarf axe be his staff. I'd agree with charging an unusual background for this.

Or maybe a mace because, as you said, a wizard's staff has a knob on the end.

I'd hesitate to prohibit dwarf wizards because (a) the books never say that they're impossible, and (b) it's semi-explicit by the end of the Discworld series that dwarfs are actually a sub-species of humanity, biologically. On the other hand, we never once see a dwarf wizard. So I'd tend to avoid this subject or possibly mutter that the genetics of the dwarf sub-species tend to exclude octarine vision.

(Then again, dwarfs seem more than capable of magical craftsmanship; they manufacture and maintain a lot of flying broomsticks, after all, and generally live up to appropriate stereotypes. So maybe they tend to divert their potential magic-workers into high-end specialised engineering jobs, or maybe the dwarf gene-cluster just tends to restrict the expression of the wizard-gene to that sort of thing. And yes, the new edition of the RPG has mechanics for this.)

But we digress.

[evileeyore]

After reading this thread... now I want to know the price of Bloodiron...

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

After reading this thread... now I want to know the price of Bloodiron...

Potentially a good bit lower than you'd expect in a modern day setting. I type "price animal blood into Google and I get .....

https://www.innov-research.com/produ...FYc2gQodqJgGgw

Chicken blood is as formerly living as any other redblooded thing. This is still medical quality too (at least for other chickens).

Then there are schemes like going into the slaughter house business. I suspect that you could end up with all the raw material you needed for a very reasonable amount.

[sir_pudding]

Iron isn't organic...

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Iron isn't organic...

I have yet to get an objective definition of organic and organic chemistry that isn't argued over.
Carbon and oxygen compounds count, but carbon dioxide itself doesn't.
For magic, I doubt anything more complex than "was once part of a living thing" matters.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

I have yet to get an objective definition of organic and organic chemistry that isn't argued over.
Carbon and oxygen compounds count, but carbon dioxide itself doesn't..

Hydrocarbons with oxygen based R groups are organic. Carbon oxides are not that.

For magic, I doubt anything more complex than "was once part of a living thing" matters

Yes, the wizard's iconic blood iron heavy machine gun...

I am pretty sure the intent of the spell is for things like wood, horn and bone.

[simply Nathan]

I always thought the wording was "once-living" material, not "organic"; the former fits a more spiritual outlook on magic while the latter is more scientific. I'll have to double-check all the physical books in my house now out of paranoia, it might be another Berenstein/Berenstain situation I have on my hands here. And "once-living" would include fossils, but sedentary rocks don't make for very good weapons material.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by simply Nathan

I always thought the wording was "once-living" material, not "organic"; the former fits a more spiritual outlook on magic while the latter is more scientific. I'll have to double-check all the physical books in my house now out of paranoia, it might be another Berenstein/Berenstain situation I have on my hands here. And "once-living" would include fossils, but sedentary rocks don't make for very good weapons material.

It says "organic". Anthony quoted upthread.