02-28-2012, 08:21 AM | #341 | |
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I just wish I had more time to play Munchkin and my DF games. But DF takes priority on the days we get together. Still, put out an expansion for the core set and I'm buying it.
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02-28-2012, 08:34 AM | #342 | ||
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I'm amused by the dire warnings I see from time to time about how SJ Games needs to diversify against the eventual Munchkin crash. I like to imagine Phil and Andrew answering, "We're trying, but it's hard to get anything done while dodging all the money people keep throwing at us for Munchkin!" It's not like they can tell a chunk of their customer base, "OK, that's enough Munchkin for you. You guys go buy In Nomine now." (And while I'm sure there's a need for diversification, and they're clearly working on non-Munchkin products, many of the suggested areas for diversification tend to be old games which have been out of print for years. Ever think there are reasons they're out of print?)
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02-28-2012, 08:43 AM | #343 | |||
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And, so as not to be a total buzzkill, in the few dealings I had with SJG in the past, they were MORE THAN generous with me. Hope they are around another 30 years (at least). |
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02-28-2012, 09:20 AM | #344 | |
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But if SJG is aware of this, and is managing themselves properly, this shouldn't be a problem. If the sales drop off and SJG hasn't been holding too much extra inventory, isn't stuck with costs related to product they can't sell anymore, etc., then it's not a problem. It sounds from what they're saying like the SJG staff is doing just this. And for all the occasional bad things that have happened to SJG financially, it does seem like Steve must be doing something right. He was making games when I was a 9-year old entering the hobby and he's still making them now, at the same company.
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02-28-2012, 09:52 AM | #345 | |
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Except that's not what they're doing at all. GURPS is still fully supported, they're fighting to get Ogre 6e out, they continue to support Car Wars and In Nomine (albeit slowly) and they keep coming out with new, bite-sized games like Zombie Dice and Cthulhu Dice. So I see no cause for concern. My only real worry is that they're not making PoD enough of a priority. The Report suggests that Evil Stevie's just shrugging and saying "We'll get to it when we get to it." Maybe he sees something I don't, because he called the pdf market before it happened and I think that's one of the reasons e23 is as successful as it is, and SJGames isn't losing some of its PDF profits to DTRPG like other companies had to. I'm worried that he's letting DTRPG and Lulu and the like get ahead of him in this regard.
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02-28-2012, 10:53 AM | #346 |
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Possibly. It could be simply that likely PoD profits <<<< projected profits from doing other things, so he spends his time on other things, but let me suggest a scenario: as e-books become more widely accepted and e-readers become better and more widely available, maybe PoD will look more and more like a rear-guard action against the slow decline of mass-market books. It'll be nice to have around for the odd lots to satisfy a tiny body of print-only die-hards, but perhaps it's just a matter of time before doing your own short-run printing becomes a sub-niche business in an almost completely electronic market.
I have no idea whether or not that's true, and I certainly hope it isn't, 'cause I really like physical books, but I think it's at least plausible. Having said that, there's a different technology I'd be amused to see them play with. I'd be very curious to see what kind of things SJ Games might turn out if they got their own 3d printer. Might not make much of a difference for real production, but given Phil's fondness for toys, I imagine they'd explore all kinds of interesting weirdness in toy-like games.
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02-28-2012, 11:01 AM | #347 |
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Thanks for the report! It's nice to see that e23 is growing.
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02-28-2012, 11:09 AM | #348 | ||
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Having sat through lengthy meetings on POD, during which we were presented with actual spreadsheets from manufacturers of the machinery and did real, grown-up analyses of the figures . . . that's it in a nutshell. As far as we can tell, ROI on POD won't ever be high enough to make it a top priority. Note, however, that there's a difference between "not our top priority" and "not a priority." As a wise man recently said, it is, in fact, a priority.
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02-28-2012, 11:22 AM | #349 |
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As always, I continue to be glad that SJ Games hasn't dropped GURPS. I know that, in terms of profit, they could probably make more by spending their time and resources elsewhere... and yet, they continue to produce my favorite RPG (or RPS, role-playing system...).
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"Here I am, stuck with a high school diploma." |
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