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11-02-2018, 07:03 PM | #12 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
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11-02-2018, 07:49 PM | #13 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
Obviously if it is two attacks then the armor counts for each attack, but if it is only an enhanced attack then it only counts once.
(ITL 108: This is a subtraction from each successful attack against the protected figure. If a figure wearing chainmail is hit by two attacks during the same turn, one doing 5 hits damage and the other 3, he would actually take only 2 hits damage from the first attack and none at all from the second. The chainmail stops the other hits.)
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11-02-2018, 08:23 PM | #14 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
Are there damages listed anywhere for RPs bite and claw attacks? I can't seem to find any. I'm forced to conclude we are supposed to use "bare-hands" damage for RP in HTH (bare-hands+1) when he is biting or clawing or otherwise unarmed. If he wields a dagger in HTH it would bare-hands+3. All of these damages would be doubled after rolling them according to RAW. If the RP has UC/Brawling talents, I would apply their "punch" effects to the attack and rolled damage and then double the damage.
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11-03-2018, 04:42 AM | #15 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
I count it once.
This is touches on the larger issue of where does the abstraction override the simulation? It's not clear to me if an "attack" is one swing of the sword every 5 seconds, or as many swings as you take in 5 seconds. When you roll a 3 for triple damage does it mean one really good hit, or 3 medium ones? If it's really relevant I'd flip a coin, but like most things, it's up to the GM. TFT as written doesn't have that level of detail. I see that as a strength. If it's a weakness for you, at least you've got a good start on back filling the detail you want. |
11-03-2018, 06:57 PM | #16 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
ITL page 79 says a reptile man "does double the HTH damage that a human of equivalent ST would".
You could argue either way: 1) Double ST damage then add bonus; 2) Double the HTH damage of a human of equivalent ST with the same level of brawling or UC. I thing the final answer will depend on a ruling from SJ Games. |
11-04-2018, 08:44 AM | #17 | |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
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11-04-2018, 10:04 AM | #18 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
I stand by my house rule that they get a second jaw attack on the same target at full DX. Then if they have two HTH attacks from UC they simply get a third.
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11-04-2018, 12:01 PM | #19 | |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
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"Double damage" does not mean "two attacks", though, it means you multiply the damage by two. For instance, double damage from a dagger thrown to the head (ITL p120) doesn't mean it hits the head twice, it means you multiply the damage by two. |
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11-04-2018, 12:24 PM | #20 |
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Re: Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonu
Then apply all of your modifiers and double the result.
Byter ST 13 DX 11 IQ 8 MA 12 4 Bolas, Dirty Fighting Claw(1d+3), in HTH this is 1d+4 then doubled Brawling (1), Running (2), Humanish(1), Bonus mundane talent Butcher of humans, bonus racial talent Swimming, Thrown weapons(2), Bola(1), Quick-Draw Bola(1) Throws a Bola at legs, using last chance missile weapon if needed, then enters HTH.
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